LA Zoo over the top?
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From: John McWilliams on 26 Feb 2010 10:11 Martin Brown wrote: > N wrote: >> >> "Doc Johnson" <nospamforme(a)anyaddress.com> wrote in message >> news:797fo55cjr625i63jf4naebqioko51f98v(a)4ax.com... >>> >>> It always surprises me that the English have never grasped the fact that >>> everyone is always trying to flee that little island. They don't grasp >>> hints too well, do they. At least they'll never have a problem with >>> immigration. >>> >> >> Where have you been for the last 20 years, under a rock? > > Trolls usually reside under bridges. As do the rude and misinformed..... -- john mcwilliams
From: Twibil on 26 Feb 2010 16:17 On Feb 26, 2:10 am, Doc Johnson <nospamfo...(a)anyaddress.com> wrote: > > > Just like the "Boston Tea Party" confrontation wasted everyone's time? I must have missed that one. Where did he make that comparison? > It always surprises me that the English have never grasped the fact that > everyone is always trying to flee that little island. They quite likely 'haven't grasped" it because it isn't true. Not even close. In fact, should you ever make the trip (worth doing) you'll find that Great Britain is yet still chock-full of -surprise!- the British. > At least they'll never have a problem with > immigration. Uh, they *do* have problems with immigration. Maybe reading the news every thirty years of so would help you keep up?
From: Robert Coe on 28 Feb 2010 09:33 On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 15:11:18 -0500, "Pete Stavrakoglou" <ntotrr(a)optonline.net> wrote: : : "Bruce" <docnews2011(a)gmail.com> wrote in message : news:2jhdo5tu3k9q2a5g2rkqcrlv5298mcghop(a)4ax.com... : > On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:36:10 -0500, "Pete Stavrakoglou" : > <ntotrr(a)optonline.net> wrote: : > : >>"Bruce" <docnews2011(a)gmail.com> wrote in message : >>news:16fdo596he7faadvrlpdj98d6ma9lbn216(a)4ax.com... : >>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 12:38:16 -0500, "Pete Stavrakoglou" : >>> <ntotrr(a)optonline.net> wrote: : >>>> : >>>>And who is the landowner of this zoo? It's "the people" who pay for it : >>>>with : >>>>their taxes and the admission fee. : >>> : >>> : >>> If the people owned the zoo, there would be no admission fee. : >>> : >>> You do not own the zoo. : >> : >>Ridiculous. So then tell us, who owns the zoo? : > : > : > Not you. ;-) : : That's right, but if I lived in LA then I would. Is there a zoo in your town? You should drop in and tell them who's in charge. Bob
From: Chris H on 28 Feb 2010 09:58 In message <lhvko5ticsbu8crhscs1i5v84vs50jfp33(a)4ax.com>, Robert Coe <bob(a)1776.COM> writes >On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 15:11:18 -0500, "Pete Stavrakoglou" <ntotrr(a)optonline.net> >wrote: >: >: "Bruce" <docnews2011(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >: news:2jhdo5tu3k9q2a5g2rkqcrlv5298mcghop(a)4ax.com... >: > On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:36:10 -0500, "Pete Stavrakoglou" >: > <ntotrr(a)optonline.net> wrote: >: > >: >>"Bruce" <docnews2011(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >: >>news:16fdo596he7faadvrlpdj98d6ma9lbn216(a)4ax.com... >: >>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 12:38:16 -0500, "Pete Stavrakoglou" >: >>> <ntotrr(a)optonline.net> wrote: >: >>>> >: >>>>And who is the landowner of this zoo? It's "the people" who pay for it >: >>>>with >: >>>>their taxes and the admission fee. >: >>> >: >>> >: >>> If the people owned the zoo, there would be no admission fee. >: >>> >: >>> You do not own the zoo. >: >> >: >>Ridiculous. So then tell us, who owns the zoo? >: > >: > >: > Not you. ;-) >: >: That's right, but if I lived in LA then I would. > >Is there a zoo in your town? You should drop in and tell them who's in charge. Assuming it is a "public" Zoo owned by the municipality he is right he owns it.... just like any shareholder owns a company. The Shareholders or in this case local tax-payers and/or residents get to elect a town council whom they authorise to run the town and set the rules to run the town. So he does "own" the zoo but he has appointed the trustees/management to run it on his behalf. They may well set a rule saying members o the public and the "owners" who are not employed there my only enter at certain times. They may say that non-employees may not take any pictures in side the zoo... If any shareholder/ local tax-payer-resident does not like it they are quite at liberty to vote differently as the next election. The other point is whilst he may want to take pictures what if all the other owners do not want to let people take pictures in the zoo? This seems as usual ONE person saying my rights are more important than anyone else's. That is not libertarianism bit a dictatorship. -- \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
From: Peter on 28 Feb 2010 12:47
"Pete Stavrakoglou" <ntotrr(a)optonline.net> wrote in message news:hm5qgs$luf$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > "Bruce" <docnews2011(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:pgbbo5tnkvtojop6k439c2k4omof91oecf(a)4ax.com... >> On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 17:31:14 -0500, "Charles" >> <charlesschuler(a)comcast.net> wrote: >>> >>>http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=34625084 >>> >> >> >> The zoo is perfectly entitled to ask for the images not to be made >> printable. The rights to images taken on private land rest with the >> landowner unless the landowner expressly grants image rights to a >> photographer. >> >> A visitor to the zoo will not have had those rights granted to them. >> However, they will normally be entitled to make images for their own >> personal use. > > The LA Zoo is not private property, it's public property paid for by the > taxpayers. > Our NYS public parks have a policy that prohibits commercial use of photographs taken on park property. Just go to Planting Fields and read the sign. As a practical matter enforcement is spotty. -- Peter |