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From: Hot-text on 14 Jan 2010 15:01
YOU DO NOT HAVE Too hook up that computer to the internet to download Avast
That is Not the way to do it
You Burner Avast to a CB on that New computer and put it in the old one
Steve >>>>





"Steve" <tlswilso(a)aol.com> wrote in message
news:#fT5NYKkKHA.5020(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> The only reason I'm not taking your advice right this minute is because I
> would have to hook up that computer to the internet to download Avast and
> probably update it.
> Time Warner already cut us off twice (for generating spam from our
> account). Once, my wife was using her computer and suddenly all web sites
> became a Time Warner message. She only had to click to promise we were
> working on it. When the same happened to me, they made me call and wait on
> hold until I could talk to a guy about the problem.
>
> Oh, the computer came with Windows ME. It was changed to XP later.
>
> Steve
>
>
> Hot-text wrote:
>> 8 years old is it a Win98
>> if is put AVAST Version 4.8 Home Edition - Free Antivirus on the Old PC
>> first and Kill that Trojan!
>> http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html
>>
>>
>>
>> "Steve" <tlswilso(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:eoVGv5zjKHA.1536(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> I want to run this by some computer smart people to decrease my chances
>>> of doing something I regret (again).
>>>
>>> My old computer picked up a Trojan (I assume). I did it to myself. I got
>>> an e-mail from a company I knew and they wanted me to take a survey. I
>>> was in a generous mood and decided to do it. On about the 3rd page my
>>> computer suddenly started working on something and Firefox froze and had
>>> to close. Foolishly, I opened it again and tried to continue! In my
>>> defense, that computer is over 8 years old and often gets into trouble.
>>> Avira then popped up 2 windows with warnings. I think (not sure now)
>>> that the Avira warnings went away on their own before I could read them.
>>> I closed everything and scanned my computer immediately with Avira. It
>>> found some things and eliminated them. I hoped I was done.
>>>
>>> Two days later I get a message from my ISP, Time Warner, saying that
>>> spam is coming from a computer on this account. I wrote back saying I
>>> believed I had fixed the problem. Then it happened again. Avira finds
>>> nothing new. I did various online scans and the free scan at McAfee
>>> claimed to find 5 things. Most notably, it found Hiloti.gen. The scan
>>> was free but they offered no help other than try to sell their product
>>> to me.
>>>
>>> I can't find a way to get rid of it so that old computer is no longer
>>> connected to the internet.
>>>
>>> This is getting way too long. Enough background, let me jump to my
>>> questions.
>>>
>>> The new computer will arrive tomorrow and it comes with 6 months of
>>> McAfee. I, long ago, put a 2nd hard drive in the old computer. I have
>>> been moving things to that 2nd drive with the intention of moving that
>>> drive into the new computer. I have moved my bookmarks, my address book,
>>> tons of pictures, assorted other files and a few programs. I would scan
>>> it right away once it is hooked up to the new computer. I would think
>>> there wouldn't be any virus or Trojans on that drive. Does anyone think
>>> this is unwise?
>>>
>>> Similar question: Would it be risky to hook up the old C drive to the
>>> new computer and see if McAfee can get rid of the original problem on
>>> that drive? I could just format that drive and forget it but I wouldn't
>>> do that right away in case there is something on there that I need and
>>> forgot to move.
>>>
>>> What do you all think?
>>>
>>> Steve in the Adirondacks
>>
From: Peter Foldes on 14 Jan 2010 15:38
Your Spiel Chuker is infected

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"Hot-text" <hot-text(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:92CAA140-3153-40DE-8DE4-A1C370C60BD6(a)microsoft.com...
> YOU DO NOT HAVE Too hook up that computer to the internet to download Avast
> That is Not the way to do it
> You Burner Avast to a CB on that New computer and put it in the old one Steve >>>>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Steve" <tlswilso(a)aol.com> wrote in message
> news:#fT5NYKkKHA.5020(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> The only reason I'm not taking your advice right this minute is because I would
>> have to hook up that computer to the internet to download Avast and probably
>> update it.
>> Time Warner already cut us off twice (for generating spam from our account).
>> Once, my wife was using her computer and suddenly all web sites became a Time
>> Warner message. She only had to click to promise we were working on it. When the
>> same happened to me, they made me call and wait on hold until I could talk to a
>> guy about the problem.
>>
>> Oh, the computer came with Windows ME. It was changed to XP later.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> Hot-text wrote:
>>> 8 years old is it a Win98
>>> if is put AVAST Version 4.8 Home Edition - Free Antivirus on the Old PC first
>>> and Kill that Trojan!
>>> http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Steve" <tlswilso(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eoVGv5zjKHA.1536(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> I want to run this by some computer smart people to decrease my chances of
>>>> doing something I regret (again).
>>>>
>>>> My old computer picked up a Trojan (I assume). I did it to myself. I got an
>>>> e-mail from a company I knew and they wanted me to take a survey. I was in a
>>>> generous mood and decided to do it. On about the 3rd page my computer suddenly
>>>> started working on something and Firefox froze and had to close. Foolishly, I
>>>> opened it again and tried to continue! In my defense, that computer is over 8
>>>> years old and often gets into trouble. Avira then popped up 2 windows with
>>>> warnings. I think (not sure now) that the Avira warnings went away on their own
>>>> before I could read them. I closed everything and scanned my computer
>>>> immediately with Avira. It found some things and eliminated them. I hoped I was
>>>> done.
>>>>
>>>> Two days later I get a message from my ISP, Time Warner, saying that spam is
>>>> coming from a computer on this account. I wrote back saying I believed I had
>>>> fixed the problem. Then it happened again. Avira finds nothing new. I did
>>>> various online scans and the free scan at McAfee claimed to find 5 things. Most
>>>> notably, it found Hiloti.gen. The scan was free but they offered no help other
>>>> than try to sell their product to me.
>>>>
>>>> I can't find a way to get rid of it so that old computer is no longer connected
>>>> to the internet.
>>>>
>>>> This is getting way too long. Enough background, let me jump to my questions.
>>>>
>>>> The new computer will arrive tomorrow and it comes with 6 months of McAfee. I,
>>>> long ago, put a 2nd hard drive in the old computer. I have been moving things
>>>> to that 2nd drive with the intention of moving that drive into the new
>>>> computer. I have moved my bookmarks, my address book, tons of pictures,
>>>> assorted other files and a few programs. I would scan it right away once it is
>>>> hooked up to the new computer. I would think there wouldn't be any virus or
>>>> Trojans on that drive. Does anyone think this is unwise?
>>>>
>>>> Similar question: Would it be risky to hook up the old C drive to the new
>>>> computer and see if McAfee can get rid of the original problem on that drive? I
>>>> could just format that drive and forget it but I wouldn't do that right away in
>>>> case there is something on there that I need and forgot to move.
>>>>
>>>> What do you all think?
>>>>
>>>> Steve in the Adirondacks
>>>

From: MEB on 14 Jan 2010 15:57
On 01/14/2010 02:49 PM, Hot-text wrote:
> So you do not have AVAST 4.8 versions on your win98 like me <<<<Hmm
>

No, I do not have AVAST installed in WIn98 anymore. The PRIMARY reason
is that there is and will be no further updates to the engine to address
the newer exploits [only so much can be done with def updates]; and when
using it, I found it hadn't provided the protection necessary to prevent
my computer from getting infected [though I was *deliberately* accessing
questionable sites using Win98SE].
And yes, the information and hacks/exploits were submitted to the
proper places.

For your reference, *including contacts with and from Alwil*, see
archival win98.gen_discussion postings concerning AVAST and support -
search last year - 2009.

>
>
> "MEB" <MEB-not-here(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:O7laNKIkKHA.5076(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> On 01/08/2010 06:29 AM, David H. Lipman wrote:
>>> From: "Hot-text" <hot-text(a)hotmail.com>
>>>
>>> | 8 years old is it a Win98
>>> | if is put AVAST Version 4.8 Home Edition - Free Antivirus on the
>>> Old PC
>>> | first and Kill that Trojan!
>>> | http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Avast no longer supports Win9x/ME.
>>>
>>
>> AND the defs for the AVAST 4.8 versions will only be SUPPOSEDLY [per
>> Alwil support] offered for a limited time period during 2010.
>>
>> --
>> MEB

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From: David H. Lipman on 14 Jan 2010 16:12
From: "Hot-text" <hot-text(a)hotmail.com>

| O why I have on a Windows 98 just add Two weeks ago!

Support ended 12/31/09


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