From: Lloyd Parsons on
In article <michelle-F1AB45.10201527072010(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:

> > The $1499 model can be configured with a 3.60Ghz i5.
>
> Right, but that doesn't answer the question as to whether that model is
> worth the three hundred bucks over the $1199 model.

True, but that is a subjective answer depending on needs. Frankly my
3.06Ghz Core2Duo 27" iMac is more than fast enough for anything I do, so
if I were looking for a new iMac this year, the base 27" would be the
one that I would get.

--
Lloyd


From: Davoud on
Michelle Steiner:
> > If you want the Magic mouse and
> > the trackpad, you can order them as a bundle within the computer order.

nospam:
> that's dumb but you can always sell the magic mouse on ebay.

Shows narrow thinking on my part. I wouldn't pay a penny per thousand
for the "Magic" Mouse, because in my view it is worth nothing
whatsoever, and it would not have occurred to me that anyone else would
willingly pay for one either (if they had ever used one).

It would be dishonest of me (I didn't say dishonest of *you* ) to sell
a "Magic" mouse on eBay because I have never sold anything there that I
did not personally believe was a top quality item. Lesser stuff I give
away, free. For some years I have been donating my Apple-brand mice to
anyone who would take them.

Davoud

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From: Tim Okergit on
On 07/27/2010 08:58 AM, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> All new iMacs with i3, i5 or i7 processors
>
> Magic Trackpad
>
> Apple Battery recharger w/batteries.
>
> I'm sure I missed a few.

Yes, absolutely great news. At last, Apple offers a G5! But I thought it
would bring the prices down. How come it doesn't?

See what you can get at Newegg for $590.99:

1. Intel Core i5-655K (Clarkdale) 3.2GHz LGA 1156 73W Dual-Core
Unlocked Desktop Processor (Model: BX80616I5655K)
2. GIGABYTE Socket 1156 Intel H55 Express Chipset HDMI Micro ATX
Motherboard (Model: GA-H55M-UD2H)
3. G.Skill Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual
Channel Desktop Memory Kit (Model: F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL)
4. Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 1.5TB 7200RPM 32MB cache SATA II 3.5"
Internal Hard Drive (Model: ST31500341AS) - OEM
5. OCZ StealthXStream 700Watt ATX12V/EPS12V SLI & CrossFire Ready
Active PFC Power Supply (Model: OCZ700SXS)
6. RAIDMAX Quantum Black SECC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case (Model:
ATX-798WB)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.432233

Of course, it's not assembled, but assembly takes about an hour or
somebody can do it for you for around $60. That would be $650 for a
computer that has vastly superior specs.

How come Macs are so expensive? Oh, yeah! It has MacOS which is so
superior to Linux and the BSDs, though much less secure after Apple
tweaked FreeBSD.

Who cares? Money is for spendign and Jobs never cares receiving a littel
extra. U'mm gonna buy one!

From: John Varela on
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:42:06 UTC, Lloyd Parsons
<lloydparsons(a)mac.com> wrote:

> In article <michelle-F1AB45.10201527072010(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:
>
> > > The $1499 model can be configured with a 3.60Ghz i5.
> >
> > Right, but that doesn't answer the question as to whether that model is
> > worth the three hundred bucks over the $1199 model.
>
> True, but that is a subjective answer depending on needs. Frankly my
> 3.06Ghz Core2Duo 27" iMac is more than fast enough for anything I do, so
> if I were looking for a new iMac this year, the base 27" would be the
> one that I would get.

I'm glad you said that, since I just ordered a refurbished one from
the Apple web site.

--
John Varela
From: Richard Maine on
Lloyd Parsons <lloydparsons(a)mac.com> wrote:

> In article <michelle-F1AB45.10201527072010(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:
>
> > > The $1499 model can be configured with a 3.60Ghz i5.
> >
> > Right, but that doesn't answer the question as to whether that model is
> > worth the three hundred bucks over the $1199 model.
>
> True, but that is a subjective answer depending on needs. Frankly my
> 3.06Ghz Core2Duo 27" iMac is more than fast enough for anything I do, so
> if I were looking for a new iMac this year, the base 27" would be the
> one that I would get.

Same here, except that I'd do the same thing I did with my 3.06GHz 27"
and get the upgraded video. That's the only upgrade I did then and its
the only one I'd do with a new one. (The decent keyboard layout is a
sidegrade, for which I gave up wireless). But I don't see a need for the
new one. Looks like the new one is a typical incremental upgrade (and at
a hair lower price, though within the noise; I see I paid $1775, while
the new one would be $1734 - both edu prices and excluding
shipping/recycling).

Heck, I still have a month to go before I pay off the old one that I
bought myself for my birthday last Oct. I do not normally pay for stuff
over time, but I let myself be seduced by the 0 interest on the
Apple/Barclay card. It is a sucky credit card in general, particularly
for those poor suckers who pay credit card interest. I'll deactivate it
after paying off the 0 interest bit next month.

I think a new refrigerator is a lot higher priority this month. The
17-year old one was "showing signs", so I decided to take advantage of
the $300 in rebates that I can get on replacing it right now in
California.

Oh, and besides the fact that I don't need the speed of the i5 or i7,
I'd worry about cooling if you did need that much. I already need to
bump up the fan speed, though I suspect that is more from the heat load
of the graphics than anything else. I've never figured out why Apple's
default configuration is so poor about speeding up the fans when needed.
I understand keeping the minimum speed low, but unless you use 3rd party
utilities, the system will hang from overheating before the fans kick up
enough to keep that from happening. Its not just this box; I've seen it
in all my iMacs. Took me a long time on the first one (a G5) to figure
out that heating was the problem, but since then, I've known to check
for that. It might be that I always get the upgraded video, and maybe
the default fan configuration doesn't accomodate that well. (It is
always dong video-intensive stuff that hangs em, and upping the fan
speed consistently fixes them).

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