From: Paul Clement on
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 18:40:46 -0400, "Kevin Provance" <k(a)p.c> wrote:

� : And my point was to say that just because there are other sources of
� : evil in the world, that doesn't excuse any single one of them.
� :
� : User data is sacred! Vendors be damned.

� Have you forgotten who you are talking to? This is the head of the .Nxt
� evangelicals and a top MSFT stooge. The very collective that said "to hell
� with VB6 users and their code assets" the apotheosis of user data. You'll
� never convince that clown that user data is anything other than expendable.
� For him or any other .Nxt die hard to say otherwise would be hypocrisy of
� biblical proportion and probably get them a major slap from MSFT themselves
� for straying from the core MSFT mission statement: "We own our customers and
� their data, and we care about neither."

Don't act so helpless Kevin. .NET can save even you. ;-)


Paul
~~~~
Microsoft MVP (Visual Basic)
From: Mayayana on
| : The people I know who are playing with Win8 right now tell me it's "COM
| : to the core." That's all I know right now.
|
| What? Windows.Nxt isn't going to happen? <eg>
|

They're pushing it with Silverlight. Windows software
in .Net was never more than a come-on, anyway.

| I hope your folks are right. I *love* COM.
|
As you probably know from the businessinsider slides
linked at Huffingtonpost, there's really not much in the
"leaked" docs. I didn't see anything to indicate specifics
about the design of Win8 itself.

But they don't really need to change Windows itself very
much in order to get to where they want to be. Microsoft
have been trying to figure out for years how to sell the
product and then rent its usage. The slides really don't
demonstrate any new ideas at all. But they do belie the focus.
They're basically wishful thinking about how nice it would be
to bring the income-generating aspects of phone apps and
Facebook into Windows, with something like an Ubuntu
software store full of 3rd-party software that MS gets a
cut of. The trick is to figure out how to charge people
too much for something they don't need, while not allowing
them any other options. ...This sounds like a job for Steve
Jobs. :)


From: Mayayana on
I'd never seen the JCButton before. It does seem
awfully big in terms of code. It took a few seconds
just to display the main form in the IDE.

My button is very simple and light, but it just uses
basic VB functionality -- no API drawing. It's mainly
of use to people who have a knack for graphics. The
trick is to create a good button face image and
carefully adjust the mask colors for that image.

|
| > See this download for a compact class that you
| >can use:
| >
| >http://www.jsware.net/jsware/vbcode.php5#set12
|
| Very interesting set of links. Thanks for providig that.
|
| Also your button code doesn't crash on my system even in an exe like
| the JCButton code does. So maybe your user control will work for me.
|
| Tony
| --
| Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP
| Tony's Main MS Access pages - http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm
| Tony's Microsoft Access Blog - http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/
| For a convenient utility to keep your users FEs and other files
| updated see http://www.autofeupdater.com/


From: Dee Earley on
On 30/06/2010 04:22, Mayayana wrote:
> But it's become "traditional" to do installs with
> admin rights, and in Vista+ if you just use the word
> "setup" in the file name of your installer it should
> cause an elevation prompt where necessary.

The correct way is to use an appropriate manifest which All Good Setup
Programs(tm) should already do.

--
Dee Earley (dee.earley(a)icode.co.uk)
i-Catcher Development Team

iCode Systems

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Please reply to the group.)
From: Karl E. Peterson on
Tony Toews explained on 6/29/2010 :
> On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 09:11:41 -0700, Karl E. Peterson <karl(a)exmvps.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Inadvertant truncation. I meant what I meant, not what I said. <g>
>
> Ahh, ok. BTW did you notice Windows 2000
> Application Specification for Microsoft Windows 2000 for Desktop
> Applications
> just above
> Chapter 4: Data and Settings Management
>
> That document might be out of date what with security lock down to
> Common App Data MS did in Windows Vista.

The guidelines haven't changed, as far as I know. Only the enforcement
of them. <bg>

Thing is, none of us noticed the problems in XP (or 2000) because we
all ran as admins all the time. They only became obvious if we tried
to support an inept relative, and decided to demote their login to
lowly User, so they wouldn't botch things all up by installing crapware
after not reading what they clicked. Well, with Vista/7, the screws
are tightening, I'm afraid.

--
..NET: It's About Trust!
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