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From: Ken Blake, MVP on 3 Feb 2010 20:38 On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 20:09:31 -0500, "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote: > From: "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake(a)this.is.an.invalid.domain> > > | On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 18:47:15 -0500, "David H. Lipman" > | <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote: > > >> From: "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake(a)this.is.an.invalid.domain> > > >> | On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 15:05:59 -0800, Doum <me(a)domain.net> wrote: > > >> >> "Anonamoose" <aetoo(a)hotmail.com> �crivait > >> >> news:20235763-6E84-41BC-8D20-F6B0C817000D(a)microsoft.com: > > >> >> <snip> > > >> >> > The router that you inevitably use to access the > >> >> > internet has a hardware firewall as well which is likely the main > >> >> > firewall actually protecting your computer. > > >> >> <snip> > > >> >> I wasn't aware you needed a router to access the internet, or maybe I > >> >> misunderstood? > > > >> | You didn't misunderstand, and you are right that a router is not > >> | needed. Moreover the great majority of computers are used without a > >> | network, and there is no router used with them. > > >> But a NAT Router or a NAT Router with a full FireWall implementation is better than > >> using > >> a FireWall application in many respects. > > > | Yep, no question about it. My point wasn't anything else, just that > | most people don't have a router. > > > > Some do and they don't know it as many newer DSL Modems are DSL Modems+NAT Router. True. But some--far from everyone. > Many on Cable are screwed as the ONLY have a Cable Modem. > > -- > Dave > http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html > Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp > -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003 Please Reply to the Newsgroup
From: mig-selv on 3 Feb 2010 20:58 Ken Blake, MVP skrev: >> | Yep, no question about it. My point wasn't anything else, just that >> | most people don't have a router. >> >> >> >> Some do and they don't know it as many newer DSL Modems are DSL Modems+NAT Router. > > > True. But some--far from everyone. > Ok, so now you tell us that most people live in the US of A? ;-) If you take the EU most people DO have a router! Kindly Mac, Denmark
From: Roy Smith on 3 Feb 2010 18:27 "Doum" <me(a)domain.net> wrote in message news:XnF9D14B825EE803doumdomainnet(a)207.46.248.16... > "Anonamoose" <aetoo(a)hotmail.com> �crivait > news:20235763-6E84-41BC-8D20-F6B0C817000D(a)microsoft.com: > > <snip> > >> The router that you inevitably use to access the >> internet has a hardware firewall as well which is likely the main >> firewall actually protecting your computer. > > <snip> > > I wasn't aware you needed a router to access the internet, or maybe I > misunderstood? It's not. The only reason you'd want a router is if you had several computers and you wanted all of them to use the same internet connection (usually DSL or a cable modem). But if you only have one PC, then a router is not needed at all. -- Roy Smith Windows 7 Home Premium
From: Weavertech89 on 3 Feb 2010 23:42 windows firewall is not any good. I use avast on windows and thats it. I use smoothwall for a firewall for all my computers. runs as an OS on a different tower and it does everything for me. it is free open source and you can't beat it. But unless you are networking you don't need a firewall. but on your anti-virus question I don't think so, most are programs to protect and clean. but try it i guess.
From: Doum on 4 Feb 2010 06:07
"Roy Smith" <rasmith1959(a)live.com> �crivait news:ea2SscVpKHA.1556(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl: > > "Doum" <me(a)domain.net> wrote in message > news:XnF9D14B825EE803doumdomainnet(a)207.46.248.16... >> "Anonamoose" <aetoo(a)hotmail.com> �crivait >> news:20235763-6E84-41BC-8D20-F6B0C817000D(a)microsoft.com: >> >> <snip> >> >>> The router that you inevitably use to access the >>> internet has a hardware firewall as well which is likely the main >>> firewall actually protecting your computer. >> >> <snip> >> >> I wasn't aware you needed a router to access the internet, or maybe I >> misunderstood? > > It's not. The only reason you'd want a router is if you had several > computers and you wanted all of them to use the same internet > connection (usually DSL or a cable modem). But if you only have one > PC, then a router is not needed at all. > I am aware of that, it's just that when "Anonamoose" said :"The router that you INEVITABLY use to access the internet...", it implied that a router was needed to access the net. |