From: The Learner on
Sorry if this is posted twice. The first time, I crossposted and it
didn't show up on my PC. This is the second time and I'm posting it to
just one group at a time.

While uninstalling Comodo (an app from Cnet) , my system stalled. Had to
shut down using the On/Off button. After trying to reboot, I found I was
infected and my system tried to fix the problems - but couldn't. I use
ERUNT and have a Raid 1 backup system. I was able to get into a prompt
mode and used ERUNT to get my system going. I used my backup to restore
everything back to a time when I didn't have Comodo installed. The
system booted. Then, I used Avira Free Version but it found five
unsigned system files. I tried System File Recovery - but I have an HP
Pavilion laptop which does not have an original Vista disk. It only has
a partition which is supposed to restore the system back to it's store
bought condition. I don't want to do this and believe if I had the I386
folder, I could used System File Checker to replace these unsigned files.
NOTE: I also ran my backup on the partition that is used for Restore
(and it found files that (I don't think) should have been there. In any
case, the backup corrected that partition since I only ran two backups of
it since I've owned the laptop. Bottom line: I need a way to fix those
five unsigned system files. Please help.......
From: David Kaye on
"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote:

>That's wrong. People should indeed Cross-Post.

I don't agree. Different newsgroups are for different purposes, which is why
there are different ones to begin with. Post ONLY on the newsgroup which is
closest to the purpose of the post. I am a longtime Usenet participant.


>everyone gets the benefit of the discussion. It also reduces the load on a
> news server.

Load? Text messages barely produce any load; it's the huge binaries files
that load down Usenet servers.


>Few news groups are moderated and if you were to post to one then it it
> unlikley that you
>would be Cross-Posting to non-moderated groups.

Obviously the original poster had included a moderated group in his
crossposts, which explains why his original post didn't get posted right
away. Otherwise Usenet is nearly instantaneous. My post here on
news.eternal-september.org will show up within an instant or two on Google
Groups, Microsoft's forums, Giganews, and on my friend's Usenet server.

So, if there was significant lag in seeing the post it was because one of the
crossposts was a moderated newsgroup.

From: Beauregard T. Shagnasty on
David Kaye wrote:

> "David H. Lipman" wrote:
>> That's wrong. People should indeed Cross-Post.
>
> I don't agree. Different newsgroups are for different purposes,
> which is why there are different ones to begin with. Post ONLY on
> the newsgroup which is closest to the purpose of the post. I am a
> longtime Usenet participant.
>
>> everyone gets the benefit of the discussion. It also reduces the
>> load on a news server.
>
> Load? Text messages barely produce any load; it's the huge binaries
> files that load down Usenet servers.
>
>> Few news groups are moderated and if you were to post to one then it
>> it unlikley that you would be Cross-Posting to non-moderated groups.
>
> Obviously the original poster had included a moderated group in his
> crossposts, which explains why his original post didn't get posted
> right away. ...

But they were posted right away. The OP just didn't see them for some
reason only he could tell about. Maybe he has cross-posted articles
filtered.

> So, if there was significant lag in seeing the post it was because
> one of the crossposts was a moderated newsgroup.

The OP's first round, he cross-posted. The second round he
*multi-posted* a half-hour later to both alt.comp.virus and
alt.comp.anti-virus -- neither of which are moderated. He then replied
to his own multiple multi-posts with a file listing.

In this case, cross-posting would definitely be desired.

--
-bts
-Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul
From: Virus Guy on
"David H. Lipman" wrote:

> | My feeling is that people should NOT crosspost at all.

> That's wrong. People should indeed Cross-Post. You get more people
> to read it and everyone gets the benefit of the discussion. It also
> reduces the load on a news server.

Crossposting is indeed the logical and efficient way to conduct a
conversation who's subject matter spans across the interests of several
newsgroups.
From: Virus Guy on
David Kaye wrote:

> > That's wrong. People should indeed Cross-Post.
>
> I don't agree. Different newsgroups are for different purposes,

There are thousands of newsgroups, and there is considerable overlap in
many of the computer and technology-related groups, especially when a
particular subject touchs or involves combinations of different
technology or product areas.

> which is why there are different ones to begin with.

If I have a question on how Windows XP handles a particular type of SCSI
hard drive, do I post my question in a Windows XP group, or a Hard-drive
or storage-related group?

If I want to know how different furnaces compare with each other, should
I post my question to misc.consumers.house, alt.home.repair, or
alt.hvac?

> Post ONLY on the newsgroup which is closest to the purpose of the
> post.

A typical use-case situation is one where an issue or question will
arise and the poster will consult a list of usenet group names, perhaps
searching the list for a keyword to see which groups contain that word.
I might search for "home", "house", "repair", "hvac", "furnace", etc.
When I've compiled a list of likely groups that *seem* to match the
focus of my intended post, I will simply cross-post my question to all
of them (I might check to see if any of them are dormant - ie no posts
for weeks or months - and remove that group from my list).

As it might be likely that I would not have been a regular reader of
those groups, I will not necessarily have a feel for what, exactly, is
typically discussed in them. If the post is of no interest in a
particular group, it will simply be ignored by the readers of that
group.

It was always anticipated that there would or could be posts that would
span the interests of several groups. That's why cross-posting was
designed into usenet.

> I am a longtime Usenet participant.

I've been posting to usenet since about 1988 or 1989. How about you?

> > everyone gets the benefit of the discussion. It also reduces
> > the load on a news server.
>
> Load? Text messages barely produce any load;

Do you know what the daily usenet traffic is? Even for text groups?

> it's the huge binaries files that load down Usenet servers.

Most usenet servers do not carry binary files.

There are many servers run as a hobby that only carry text groups. Load
and bandwidth is important - especially to them. They are becoming
increasingly important as many ISP's and institutions are turning off
their NNTP servers.

> > Few news groups are moderated and if you were to post to one
> > then it it unlikley that you would be Cross-Posting to non-
> > moderated groups.
>
> Obviously the original poster had included a moderated group
> in his crossposts, which explains why his original post didn't
> get posted right away.

Sometimes (most times) a poster has no knowledge that a particular group
is moderated. When selecting a group from a list being displayed to you
by your news client, the client that I use is not aware (or does not
indicate) which groups are moderated. I'm not sure if the
"moderation-status" of a group is an attribute that even exists, or if
it's transmitted between servers and clients.
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