Unable to boot from WinXP Pro Setup Disc
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From: LewB on 24 Apr 2010 12:53 I want to do a clean install of WinXP.Pro. I have the original Setup disc and a slipstreamed SP3 disc. Both will not boot from the CD drive. It is set correctly in the BIOS. When the system is restarted with the disc in place the system does displace the "click any key to boot from the CD" but when this is done Windows boots normally. In BIOS there are 3 listed in "boot devise priority". 1st CD/DVD-0: DVD-ROM-16X6S 2nd CD/DVD-1: TSST Corp CD/DVDW SH-S182M 3rd CD/DVD-0:DVD-ROM DVD-16x6S The 1st and 3rd are essentially the same. I only have two optical drives. But trying both discs in each drive produces the same result. The disc itself suggests disabling all AV program. I have Microsoft Security Essentials but there are no directions about disabling it....or if that is critical. LJB -- LJB
From: Pegasus [MVP] on 24 Apr 2010 13:39 "LewB" <whoislew(a)hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message news:05FD223A-1004-464A-88FC-66EE46BC8BBE(a)microsoft.com... > I want to do a clean install of WinXP.Pro. I have the original Setup > disc > and a slipstreamed SP3 disc. Both will not boot from the CD drive. It is > set correctly in the BIOS. When the system is restarted with the disc in > place the system does displace the "click any key to boot from the CD" but > when this is done Windows boots normally. In BIOS there are 3 listed in > "boot devise priority". > 1st CD/DVD-0: DVD-ROM-16X6S > 2nd CD/DVD-1: TSST Corp CD/DVDW SH-S182M > 3rd CD/DVD-0:DVD-ROM DVD-16x6S > The 1st and 3rd are essentially the same. I only have two optical drives. > But trying both discs in each drive produces the same result. The disc > itself suggests disabling all AV program. I have Microsoft Security > Essentials but there are no directions about disabling it....or if that is > critical. > LJB > -- > LJB The status of your virus scanner is irrelevant when booting the machine from a CD. I have seen a number of posts in which people insisted that they were unable to boot from the CD/DVD drive. Here are the most common reasons for such failures: - The poster overlooked the prompt to press a key in order to boot from the CD/DVD drive. - The boot CD/DVD was not a boot disk or was damaged. Using it on another machine confirmed this. - Some BIOS setting was incorrect. Booting with some other boot CD/DVD (e.g. from here: http://pogostick.net/~pnh/ntpasswd/) confirmed this. - The CD/DVD drive was damaged or unable to boot from a boot CD or DVD. - The machine had a hardware problem (e.g. a motherboard or RAM problem) that prevented it from booting in any mode.
From: PA Bear [MS MVP] on 24 Apr 2010 13:40 [You're still messing around with that computer?!] > I have Microsoft Security Essentials [installed]... If you're doing a clean install, you must format the HDD. If you've formatted the HDD, Microsoft Security Essentials is not installed. =============================== HOW TO do a clean install of WinXP: See http://michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html#steps and/or Method 1 in http://support.microsoft.com/kb/978307 After the clean install, you will have the equivalent of a "new computer" so take care of everything on the following page before otherwise connecting the machine to the internet or a local network (i.e., other computers) and before using a flash drive or SDCard that isn't brand-new or hasn't been freshly formatted: 4 steps to help protect your new computer before you go online http://www.microsoft.com/security/pypc.aspx Other helpful references include: HOW TO get a computer running WinXP Gold (no Service Packs) fully patched (after a clean install) http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/msg/3f5afa8ed33e121c HOW TO get a computer running WinXP SP1(a) or SP2 fully patched (after a clean install) http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/msg/a066ae41add7dd2b Tip: After getting the computer fully-patched, download/install KB971029 manually: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971029 NB: Any Norton or McAfee free-trial that came preinstalled on the computer when you bought it will be reinstalled (but invalid) when Windows is reinstalled. You MUST uninstall the free-trial and download/run the appropriate removal tool before installing any updates, Windows Service Packs or IE upgrades and before installing your new anti-virus application (which will require WinXP SP3 to be installed). Norton Removal Tool ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/english_us_canada/removal_tools/Norton_Removal_Tool.exe McAfee Consumer Products Removal Tool http://download.mcafee.com/products/licensed/cust_support_patches/MCPR.exe -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002 LewB wrote: > I want to do a clean install of WinXP.Pro. I have the original Setup > disc > and a slipstreamed SP3 disc. Both will not boot from the CD drive. It is > set correctly in the BIOS. When the system is restarted with the disc in > place the system does displace the "click any key to boot from the CD" but > when this is done Windows boots normally. In BIOS there are 3 listed in > "boot devise priority". > 1st CD/DVD-0: DVD-ROM-16X6S > 2nd CD/DVD-1: TSST Corp CD/DVDW SH-S182M > 3rd CD/DVD-0:DVD-ROM DVD-16x6S > The 1st and 3rd are essentially the same. I only have two optical drives. > But trying both discs in each drive produces the same result. The disc > itself suggests disabling all AV program. I have Microsoft Security > Essentials but there are no directions about disabling it....or if that is > critical. > LJB
From: LewB on 24 Apr 2010 17:05 Yeah Bear it is me again trying to do what you suggested several weeks ago. I can't format this HDD from Setup Disc. It won't boot to Setup as described. So how can I format and start over? Pegasus says I have motherboard and disc drive problems. Hopefully not. If I R click on C and go to format, windows will not allow it because of other utilities running. I don't know where they are and how to shut them down or if this is the way to do a format since the Setup is not cooperating with the boot process. LB -- LJB "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: > [You're still messing around with that computer?!] > > > I have Microsoft Security Essentials [installed]... > > If you're doing a clean install, you must format the HDD. If you've > formatted the HDD, Microsoft Security Essentials is not installed. > > =============================== > > HOW TO do a clean install of WinXP: See > http://michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html#steps and/or Method 1 in > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/978307 > > After the clean install, you will have the equivalent of a "new computer" so > take care of everything on the following page before otherwise connecting > the machine to the internet or a local network (i.e., other computers) and > before using a flash drive or SDCard that isn't brand-new or hasn't been > freshly formatted: > > 4 steps to help protect your new computer before you go online > http://www.microsoft.com/security/pypc.aspx > > Other helpful references include: > > HOW TO get a computer running WinXP Gold (no Service Packs) fully patched > (after a clean install) > http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/msg/3f5afa8ed33e121c > > HOW TO get a computer running WinXP SP1(a) or SP2 fully patched (after a > clean install) > http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/msg/a066ae41add7dd2b > > Tip: After getting the computer fully-patched, download/install KB971029 > manually: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971029 > > NB: Any Norton or McAfee free-trial that came preinstalled on the computer > when you bought it will be reinstalled (but invalid) when Windows is > reinstalled. You MUST uninstall the free-trial and download/run the > appropriate removal tool before installing any updates, Windows Service > Packs or IE upgrades and before installing your new anti-virus application > (which will require WinXP SP3 to be installed). > > Norton Removal Tool > ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/english_us_canada/removal_tools/Norton_Removal_Tool.exe > > McAfee Consumer Products Removal Tool > http://download.mcafee.com/products/licensed/cust_support_patches/MCPR.exe > > -- > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) > MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002 > > > > LewB wrote: > > I want to do a clean install of WinXP.Pro. I have the original Setup > > disc > > and a slipstreamed SP3 disc. Both will not boot from the CD drive. It is > > set correctly in the BIOS. When the system is restarted with the disc in > > place the system does displace the "click any key to boot from the CD" but > > when this is done Windows boots normally. In BIOS there are 3 listed in > > "boot devise priority". > > 1st CD/DVD-0: DVD-ROM-16X6S > > 2nd CD/DVD-1: TSST Corp CD/DVDW SH-S182M > > 3rd CD/DVD-0:DVD-ROM DVD-16x6S > > The 1st and 3rd are essentially the same. I only have two optical drives. > > But trying both discs in each drive produces the same result. The disc > > itself suggests disabling all AV program. I have Microsoft Security > > Essentials but there are no directions about disabling it....or if that is > > critical. > > LJB > > . >
From: Lem on 24 Apr 2010 17:38 LewB wrote: > Yeah Bear it is me again trying to do what you suggested several weeks ago. > I can't format this HDD from Setup Disc. It won't boot to Setup as > described. So how can I format and start over? Pegasus says I have > motherboard and disc drive problems. Hopefully not. If I R click on C and > go to format, windows will not allow it because of other utilities running. > I don't know where they are and how to shut them down or if this is the way > to do a format since the Setup is not cooperating with the boot process. > LB Of the four possibilities Pegasus suggested, your description makes it seem as if option 2 is the most likely: "The boot CD/DVD was not a boot disk or was damaged." What exactly is your "original setup disk"? What words are printed on it? Where did the "slipstreamed SP3 disc" come from? If you made it, what did you use as the base CD? Have you tried either of these CDs on another computer? You don't have to install anything on the other computer, just confirm (or not) that the CD boots. Have you created another bootable CD as Pegasus suggested to determine if your hardware was capable of booting from *any* CD? -- Lem Apollo 11 - 40 years ago: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/apollo/40th/index.html
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