From: William R. Walsh on
Hi!

> Open Office is so lame! For starters, it only has two
> views. How limiting is that?

I'm administering OpenOffice in a corporate environment, across
differing platforms and approximately 30 workstations. And so far,
it's been very little trouble...two views? Which ones are missing in
OOo as compared to Office?

Don't know about "title case". If this is formatting, it shouldn't be
too hard to create a predefined format for this. (Disclaimer: haven't
tried it!)

> And Open Office really isn't compatible with MS Office documents either.

That would be news to me and quite a few other people, actually. To
date, and in that corporate environment, exactly *one* Word 2007
document failed to open. And in the interest of being fair, said
document was a bunch of cut and pasted photos with some
rather...unique...formatting.

When put under pressure for "deep" number crunching tasks, the OOo
spreadsheet didn't go quite far enough in its feature set. However,
there's a very good chance that it will at some point since it's open
source software that anyone could work on.

> Unfortunately on my Linux machines, I'm stuck using lame Open
> Office on them since MS Office doesn't run under Linux.

If you want MS Office on Linux, look at WINE to provide a suitable
operating environment. I've heard that the Office programs run pretty
well.

William
From: Christopher Muto on
Dave WB3DWE wrote:
> Have Dell precision workstation 390, about 3 years old.
> Running XP Prof sp 3 . Using Office 2003 supplied by Dell.
>
> On Jun 26 I came across an offer from Microsoft : free trial
> of Office Prof 2010. Downloaded and installed it.
>
> Could not get it working as I hoped. Tried to open my
> 2003 Word to complete a project due within 24 hours.
>
> Message came up
> Installation Error : File not Found
> A required installation file SKU113.CAB could not be found
> Original Installation Source Required.
>
> To my horror 2003 Excel gave same message.
> Even Outlook is affected.
>
> Uninstalled Office 2010 and rebooted : problem persists
> with Word, Excel and Outlook.
>
> Sent email to Microsoft Office 2010 online Store, who
> provided the software. They assured me it did not overwrite
> anything. Tried to contact MS support : they want $ 89 per
> hour for help. Finally today reached the Online Store by
> phone. The operator said he was not technically trained and
> could not help. Transfered me to MS tech support. Explained
> whole problem. They would only help if I paid for it : to
> undo what their software had done to my system. Only other
> option they gave was to contact Dell. This system was sold
> three years ago and Dell had nothing to do with it.
>
> I can now get Word & Excel up by repeatedly clicking
> on the error messages, but what a pain. I cannot find a file
> on Word. I'm uneasy about both. Outlook does not fully
> work and does not allow me to send new messages.
>
> You can imagine my feelings for Microsoft ... Dave


you could try windows xp system restore
(start-programs-acessories-systemtools-systemrestore) to bring your
system back to a point in time before you installed the office 2010
trial. otherwise i would suggest visiting this page on microsoft's site
with 'fix it for me' buttons to first remove office 2010 then 2007 then
2003, and restart before reinstalling office 2003.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290301
when installing office 2003 be sure to select 'custom' installation so
that you can then select to install everything on your hard disk
(otherwise you will be prompted later for the original installation cd
to install such things as the thesaurus when you go to use it for the
first time).
From: Daddy on
On 6/30/2010 10:36 AM, Christopher Muto wrote:
> you could try windows xp system restore
> (start-programs-acessories-systemtools-systemrestore) to bring your
> system back to a point in time before you installed the office 2010 trial.

No offense intended, but this is a serious error. Restoring to an
earlier restore point will not "bring your system back to a point in
time before you installed the office". This can only be achieved by
restoring a disc image backup created prior to installing Office, but
that would revert the /entire disc/ back to that point in time.

Restoring to an earlier restore point in this situation will not remove
the Office trial, and is likely to leave the computer with a potentially
unstable mix of old and new system files.
--
Daddy
From: Christopher Muto on
Daddy wrote:
> On 6/30/2010 10:36 AM, Christopher Muto wrote:
>> you could try windows xp system restore
>> (start-programs-acessories-systemtools-systemrestore) to bring your
>> system back to a point in time before you installed the office 2010
>> trial.
>
> No offense intended, but this is a serious error. Restoring to an
> earlier restore point will not "bring your system back to a point in
> time before you installed the office". This can only be achieved by
> restoring a disc image backup created prior to installing Office, but
> that would revert the /entire disc/ back to that point in time.
>
> Restoring to an earlier restore point in this situation will not remove
> the Office trial, and is likely to leave the computer with a potentially
> unstable mix of old and new system files.

i don't think that it is an incorrect statement, but i do see how you
can interpret it that way. let me be more specific: system restore
will likely solve the users problem. using it will not remove the
office 2010 installation from the users hard disk but will restore the
registry to a version that does not have any references to the
installation of the office 2010 installation. hope that helps.
From: Ben Myers on
On 6/30/2010 7:24 AM, BillW50 wrote:
> Ben Myers wrote:
>>> You can imagine my feelings for Microsoft ... Dave
>
> Seriously Dave, you should never have more than one version of MS Office
> installed per OS. If you need more, then you need multiple computers, or
> dual boot, or virtual machines, or something else.
>
>> There is always Open Office 3.2. Seriously! ... Ben Myers
>
> Seriously Ben, Open Office is so lame! For starters, it only has two
> views. How limiting is that? And I use title case all of the time and
> Open Office doesn't even have this most basic feature. And Open Office
> really isn't compatible with MS Office documents either. I really don't
> see the excitement with Open Office when it can't even get the most
> basic tasks right. Unfortunately on my Linux machines, I'm stuck using
> lame Open Office on them since MS Office doesn't run under Linux.
>

My basic needs are evidently more basic than yours. OO 3.2 works just
fine on my laptop, and it ran a very complicated PPT flawlessly a few
months ago.

But to the problems raised by the OP, which would you prefer to have, OO
3.2 working, albeit not a perfect Office clone, or your hard drive all
hosed up by Office 2010 so you can't do any documents, spreadsheets, and
presentations. Give me something that actually works... Ben Myers