From: Daryl McCullough on
You know, guys, whining about unions isn't very relevant to the
theory of relativity.

Yes, I know we all have been guilty of the sin of off-topicality...

--
Daryl McCullough
Ithaca, NY

From: jmfbahciv on
In article <d2jm4r09or(a)drn.newsguy.com>,
stevendaryl3016(a)yahoo.com (Daryl McCullough) wrote:
>You know, guys, whining about unions isn't very relevant to the
>theory of relativity.

It's very relavent or do you enjoy having the cranks repeat
themselves ad nauseum? What are you going to do when the
guy is supposed to maintain GPS has been taught by these
union members and you have a high priority need to get
3000 miles away today?

>
>Yes, I know we all have been guilty of the sin of off-topicality...

You're suffering from short-term thinking ;-).

/BAH


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From: TomGee on
Mitch/Nick, I am not confused as to your question. I understood it
precisely based on your subject title, "What keeps electrons spinning
around their nucleus". There is no ambiguity in that question.
TomGee

From: Bilge on
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com:
>
>Of course. That what unions do; socialism and anarchism
>stirred by zealots.

That has to be one of most self-inconsistent statements ever posted.
I don't suppose it has occured to you that anarchism is essentially
libertarianism with a vengence while socialism is about as diametrically
opposed to that as possible? What happened, did everyone but the
knee-jerk phony conservatives gang up on the corporate handout scheme
by employing the rather capitalist concept of negotiating a contract for
a service (i.e., labor) by leveraging some assets (i.e., the labor
pool)? I find it rather bizarre that anyone could claim to favor
free enterprise, but only when the contracts are beneficial to the
officers of a corporation. Personally, I think people deserve more
consideration than copyright on a dvd. A union is nothing but a
business whose services are employees and which negotiates contracts
at the rates and terms th market will bear. Socialism only enters
the picture when the government artificially limits the scope of
those contracts. To paraphrase the usual trite phrase, ``if enough
people didn't become union members, they unions would go out of
business,'' just like if enough people didn't want hazardous chemicals
in their rivers, they stop buying products from companies that dump
toxic wastes into rivers.''



From: Ken S. Tucker on
Bilge et al...
About education, consider it's reasons and evolution.
In the post-institutional (1930's) the primary responsibility
for education fell on Father and Mother.
Father and Mother would spend time with both, and
in a loving enviroment you got smacked for making dumb
decisions, but Mommy and Daddy spent good time as
you helped with the chores and learned the trade.

WW2 by the nature of that combat, forced a de-personalization,
that we can term "institutionalization" where the individuality
was substituted as a number in a group.

The institution (see root instant), subbed the primary education
from parent to instant schools, as the cold war dragged on,
the alleged necessity to have a State contolled education,
was legally enacted to subvert parents role in education.

Now my point is, we are in a very institutionalized culture,
and the +/- of that needs to be recognized w.r.t. traditional
means of education of the 30's.

By traditional, adults enjoy discussions with younger
people, and likewise, because that imparts values and
principles.

I would say, that there is a boost of culture if the
Dad and Mom spend lots of time with son and daughter
telling them about what they've learned and what
they know and why they think some things are true.

Institutions and corporations do their best, as I've
found, and a positively managed organization
benefits everyone.

Regards
Ken S. Tucker