From: Phil Allison on

"Amanda Ripanykhazov"


And for some reason I have never
understood, the surrounds in those old speakers aren't made of rubber
which disintegrates so that isnt a problem

** The AR11 woofer has a FOAM surround - all foam surrounds disintegrate
after about 10 to 20 years.

Most woofers made these days use rubber (aka roll) surrounds which have an
indefinite life excepting the odd case of adhesive failure.



..... Phil





From: bz on
Amanda Ripanykhazov wrote:
> Anyone know what this means? This hissing sound isnt constant, it is
> irregular: It isnt related to the music or any movement of the cone
> or any signal put through it, though it doesnt happen when no sound is
> put through the speaker.
>
> Frankly it sounds more mechancial than electronic (as if there is
> something behind there!) but as I say, it isnt related to whatever is
> coming through the speaker though it does increase and decrease with
> adjustment of the volume control. Andit is louder than most signals
> put through the woofer itself??
>
> Is it indicative of some pot in the crossover needing cleaning or is
> there something else going on please? (I have seen reference to people
> improving the sound of AR11s by bypassing the tone controls in the
> speaker completely). This speaker is quite elderly and I would
> imagine that if it does use mechanical pots, they must be fairly dirty
> by now

I know it is a silly question, but are you SURE that the hiss isn't
coming out of your amplifier?
(have you put a scope on the speaker lines or substituted either speaker
or amp?)

From your description, it isn't clear to me that you have eliminated the
'more obvious' possibility that your amplifier is putting out white
noise, perhaps intermittently varying in amplitude.
From: Amanda Ripanykhazov on
On Jul 24, 7:21 am, bz <WQAHBGMXS...(a)spammotel.com> wrote:
> Amanda Ripanykhazov wrote:
> > Anyone know what this means? This hissing sound isnt constant, it is
> > irregular:  It isnt related to the music or any movement of the cone
> > or any signal put through it, though it doesnt happen when no sound is
> > put through the speaker.
>
> > Frankly it sounds more mechancial than electronic (as if there is
> > something behind there!) but as I say, it isnt related to whatever is
> > coming through the speaker though it does increase and decrease with
> > adjustment of the volume control.  Andit is louder than most signals
> > put through the woofer itself??
>
> > Is it indicative of some pot in the crossover needing cleaning or is
> > there something else going on please? (I have seen reference to people
> > improving the sound of AR11s by bypassing the tone controls in the
> > speaker completely).  This speaker is quite elderly and I would
> > imagine that if it does use mechanical pots, they must be fairly dirty
> > by now
>
> I know it is a silly question, but are you SURE that the hiss isn't
> coming out of your amplifier?
> (have you put a scope on the speaker lines or substituted either speaker
> or amp?)
>
>  From your description, it isn't clear to me that you have eliminated the
> 'more obvious' possibility that your amplifier is putting out white
> noise, perhaps intermittently varying in amplitude.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yeah, switching one speaker pretty much solved that one.
From: Arfa Daily on


"Amanda Ripanykhazov" <dmanzaluni(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:8f36b444-2b05-4f98-85e1-d79583ce9c63(a)g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 24, 7:21 am, bz <WQAHBGMXS...(a)spammotel.com> wrote:
>> Amanda Ripanykhazov wrote:
>> > Anyone know what this means? This hissing sound isnt constant, it is
>> > irregular: It isnt related to the music or any movement of the cone
>> > or any signal put through it, though it doesnt happen when no sound is
>> > put through the speaker.
>>
>> > Frankly it sounds more mechancial than electronic (as if there is
>> > something behind there!) but as I say, it isnt related to whatever is
>> > coming through the speaker though it does increase and decrease with
>> > adjustment of the volume control. Andit is louder than most signals
>> > put through the woofer itself??
>>
>> > Is it indicative of some pot in the crossover needing cleaning or is
>> > there something else going on please? (I have seen reference to people
>> > improving the sound of AR11s by bypassing the tone controls in the
>> > speaker completely). This speaker is quite elderly and I would
>> > imagine that if it does use mechanical pots, they must be fairly dirty
>> > by now
>>
>> I know it is a silly question, but are you SURE that the hiss isn't
>> coming out of your amplifier?
>> (have you put a scope on the speaker lines or substituted either speaker
>> or amp?)
>>
>> From your description, it isn't clear to me that you have eliminated the
>> 'more obvious' possibility that your amplifier is putting out white
>> noise, perhaps intermittently varying in amplitude.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Yeah, switching one speaker pretty much solved that one.

What, solved it as in proved that the amplifier *was* the cause, or solved
it as in it wasn't ?

Arfa

From: Amanda Ripanykhazov on
On Jul 26, 4:11 am, "Arfa Daily" <arfa.da...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
> "Amanda Ripanykhazov" <dmanzal...(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:8f36b444-2b05-4f98-85e1-d79583ce9c63(a)g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 24, 7:21 am, bz <WQAHBGMXS...(a)spammotel.com> wrote:
> >> Amanda Ripanykhazov wrote:
> >> > Anyone know what this means? This hissing sound isnt constant, it is
> >> > irregular:  It isnt related to the music or any movement of the cone
> >> > or any signal put through it, though it doesnt happen when no sound is
> >> > put through the speaker.
>
> >> > Frankly it sounds more mechancial than electronic (as if there is
> >> > something behind there!) but as I say, it isnt related to whatever is
> >> > coming through the speaker though it does increase and decrease with
> >> > adjustment of the volume control.  Andit is louder than most signals
> >> > put through the woofer itself??
>
> >> > Is it indicative of some pot in the crossover needing cleaning or is
> >> > there something else going on please? (I have seen reference to people
> >> > improving the sound of AR11s by bypassing the tone controls in the
> >> > speaker completely).  This speaker is quite elderly and I would
> >> > imagine that if it does use mechanical pots, they must be fairly dirty
> >> > by now
>
> >> I know it is a silly question, but are you SURE that the hiss isn't
> >> coming out of your amplifier?
> >> (have you put a scope on the speaker lines or substituted either speaker
> >> or amp?)
>
> >>  From your description, it isn't clear to me that you have eliminated the
> >> 'more obvious' possibility that your amplifier is putting out white
> >> noise, perhaps intermittently varying in amplitude.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Yeah, switching one speaker pretty much solved that one.
>
> What, solved it as in proved that the amplifier *was* the cause, or solved
> it as in it wasn't ?
>
> Arfa- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

When I took out the speaker and put in another one, the hissing sound
stopped? When I put the speaker in again, the hissing sound started
again