From: MC on
abelard wrote:

> On Sat, 22 May 2010 17:17:14 -0700 (PDT), Twibil
> <nowayjose6(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On May 22, 4:19�pm, Robert Coe <b...(a)1776.COM> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> >> Bah. The only horrific aspect to any of this is that bullfighting
> is allowed >> in any allegedly civilized country. I feel, I guess,
> some sympathy for the >> matador's family, but the matador himself
> got no more than he richly deserved.
> >
> > Gee, I hate to imagine what you think the slaughter-house employee -
> > who kills several hundred animals every day- "richly deserves".
> >
> > (Notes for PETA members and other easily-outraged souls: 1.) The
> > bulls killed in bullfights are butchered and the meat is generally
> > given to charitable organizations such as orphanages; places that
> > would seldom see any meat at all otherwise. 2.) Let's say you're a
> > bull, shall we? Would you like a chance to take one of those
> > funny-looking guys in the tight suits along with you when you go,
> > or would you prefer to be hit between the eyes with a sledge hammer
> > or electrocuted without warning?)
>
> you get a longer life as fighting bull and you may
> get reprieved and put out to stud if you do unusually well!

This is correct. It is quite rare though. This honour is bestowed on
the bull by the crowd or the matador if they feel the bull has fought
well. The bull is patched up and retired from the ring and can,
indeed, be put out to stud.

I have seen bullfighting on TV during my many visits to areas of the
Europe where it has been broadcast. The first time I watched it was
through curiosity and I did so with a little trepidation. I was
surprised, however, that I was more caught up with the spectacle of the
event itself rather than repulsed by the blood thirsty nature of it.

MC
From: Peter on
"abelard" <abelard3(a)abelard.org> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 22 May 2010 17:17:14 -0700 (PDT), Twibil
> <nowayjose6(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On May 22, 4:19 pm, Robert Coe <b...(a)1776.COM> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Bah. The only horrific aspect to any of this is that bullfighting is
>>> allowed
>>> in any allegedly civilized country. I feel, I guess, some sympathy for
>>> the
>>> matador's family, but the matador himself got no more than he richly
>>> deserved.
>>
>>Gee, I hate to imagine what you think the slaughter-house employee -
>>who kills several hundred animals every day- "richly deserves".
>>
>>(Notes for PETA members and other easily-outraged souls: 1.) The bulls
>>killed in bullfights are butchered and the meat is generally given to
>>charitable organizations such as orphanages; places that would seldom
>>see any meat at all otherwise. 2.) Let's say you're a bull, shall we?
>>Would you like a chance to take one of those funny-looking guys in the
>>tight suits along with you when you go, or would you prefer to be hit
>>between the eyes with a sledge hammer or electrocuted without warning?)
>
> you get a longer life as fighting bull and you may
> get reprieved and put out to stud if you do unusually well!


Reminds me of the story about a restaurant across from the bull ring.
The specialty on the menu is, bull's balls.
When a patron complained that his portion was unusually small the waiter
replied."el toro no siempre pierden."


--
Peter

From: Fred McKenzie on
In article <4bf88fbd$1$27765$8f2e0ebb(a)news.shared-secrets.com>,
"Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote:

> Reminds me of the story about a restaurant across from the bull ring.

Reminds me of another story that involves a bull.

<http://denisdutton.com/smoke.htm>

Fred
From: GMAN on
In article <655ff388-8950-493f-b018-25661da678e1(a)u7g2000vbq.googlegroups.com>, BP killed my turtle <michaelnewport(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>hardy fuckin ha....excellent photo too
>
>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1280469/Matador-escapes-death
>-skin-teeth-horrific-goring-Madrid-bullfight.html
>
>Matador escapes death by the skin of his teeth after horrific goring
>in Madrid bullfight
>By MAIL FOREIGN SERVICE
>Last updated at 6:18 PM on 22nd May 2010
>Comments (0)
>Add to My Stories
>WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT
>Spanish matador Julio Aparicio needed two operations after he was
>horrifically gored through the throat during a bullfight in Madrid.
>The half-ton bull, called Opiparo, struck after Julio Aparicio lost
>his footing and stumbled while carrying out a pass with is red cape in
>a packed Las Ventas bullring.
>One of the animal's horns tore into his throat and punched through the
>bottom of his mouth as the crowd screamed in horror at the bullfight
>last night.
>
>Impaled: Span

And we are to feel sorry for the Matador when we all know what they do to the
bulls?


I dont feel sorry for the aholes who keep building and living in flood plains
and who keep losing their houses here in the US either.
From: Twibil on
On May 22, 5:21 pm, abelard <abela...(a)abelard.org> wrote:
>
>
> you get a longer life as fighting bull and you may
>     get reprieved and put out to stud if you do unusually well!

True. I forgot to point out that fighting bulls are indeed *bulls*,
not steers: a not insignificant factor when considered from the bull's
point of view.

One should also take into account the fact that these bulls have been
carefully bred for their homicidal quailties over a period of
centuries, and today are the bovine equivalents of Hannibal Lecter.
(True story: A Miura bull once charged a passing steam locomotive, hit
it broadside, and actually derailed the train in the process of
turning himself into hamburger.)