From: atec7 7 ""atec77" on
terryc wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 14:11:19 +1000, Hunter wrote:
>
>> How are the commercial news websites going to survive when most
>> countries now have a government funded online news service? Our is
>> news.abc.net.au and they will never charge for it.
>
> Quality, being original and first. The ABC news is all regurgitated
> feeds from elsewhere.
>
>
I would be interested to see that claim proven
From: terryc on
On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 02:52:52 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

> terryc wrote
>> Hunter wrote
>
>>> Ads pay a lot more on TV.
>
>> It can not be that much, given what is now being advertised.
>
> It is anyway.
>
>> Although, thinking back, K-tel managed prime time adds.
>
> Try pricing them sometime.

Lol, FWIR, I think the figure is under 20K all up, depending on amount
and time of day you advertise. Yep, late night add by some production
company amongst all the skin tones and hushed voices.

From: terryc on
On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 02:45:40 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

> terryc wrote
>> Hunter wrote
>
>>> How are the commercial news websites going to survive when most
>>> countries now have a government funded online news service? Our is
>>> news.abc.net.au and they will never charge for it.
>
>> Quality, being original and first.
>
> Difficult to do consistently with the sort of money that they can get by
> charging for access.

It would be like any business. Some activities ands methods work and
others do not. The skill to a any successful business is knowing/picking/
learning which work. e.g Crikey. Caveat, I have no idea how successful/
profitable it really is.


>> The ABC news is all regurgitated feeds from elsewhere.
>
> Not all of it is, most obviously with what has just happened in Israel.

Before Y2k, I was involved in a roll out of upgrade to their "news desk"
service. Its 3am and the upgrade is just one big schmozzle and definitely
not working and I'm strongly suggesting its time to roll back, but Nope.
it is allowed to progress and is left in a broken state for 6am.

Nothing can be filed from London, Uk. the link is broken. I later found
out, that it hadn't actually been used for over three months anyway. All
the London/Uk stories have come in from other services/wires or other
means. So, it has been happening from a while.

Try watching SBS 6:30, ABC and 7:30 report and it can be three identical
shot and stories.

From: Hunter on

"terryc" <newsninespam-spam(a)woa.com.au> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 02:52:52 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
>
>> terryc wrote
>>> Hunter wrote
>>
>>>> Ads pay a lot more on TV.
>>
>>> It can not be that much, given what is now being advertised.
>>
>> It is anyway.
>>
>>> Although, thinking back, K-tel managed prime time adds.
>>
>> Try pricing them sometime.
>
> Lol, FWIR, I think the figure is under 20K all up, depending on amount
> and time of day you advertise. Yep, late night add by some production
> company amongst all the skin tones and hushed voices.
>

And how does this compare to online ads. By the way, TV ads are probably
closer to 100K.


From: Hunter on

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hunter wrote:
>
>> How are the commercial news websites going to survive when most
>> countries now have a government funded online news service?
>
> In theory by have more apes on the ground feeding their web sites with
> news.
>
> Dubious proposition tho.
>
>> Our is news.abc.net.au and they will never charge for it.
>
> Yes, but it remains to be seen how much they will choose to
> spend on say showing up at interesting trials for long times etc.

Also worth noting is this is the first time a government-run "print" news
service has existed in many countries.