From: His kennyness on
On 07/01/2010 11:35 AM, Tim Down wrote:
> On Jul 1, 6:19 am, His kennyness<kentil...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 06/30/2010 02:35 PM, Gildas wrote:
>>
>>> On 29 juin, 12:43, Kenneth Tilton<kentil...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Now you can ask for hints (and a bunch more is fixed):
>>
>>>> http://teamalgebra.com/
>>
>>> Hi,
>>
>>> Do you really need to send to your server a XHR each time I hit a key
>>> or click in the input control ?
>>
>> Have you seen the code behind the math editor? Obviously a port to JS
>> would be worthwhile when there are no other problems to solve, or if the
>> round-trip itself turns out to be a show-stopper. But what I am sure you
>> have not considered is the typing speed of a student doing Algebra. I am
>> also sure that you believe "texting" from cell phones will never catch
>> on because it is so hard typing in the messages.
>>
>> Keep up the good work.
>>
>> kt
>>
>> <what a bunch of losers>
>
> That was a reasonable question, asked politely.

Yeah, that wa indeed one of the better ones. I think I got to it after
wading through a bunch of lesser efforts and was unfair.

> You have responded
> with yet more sneering. Did you actually want help or did you want an
> argument?
>

Help? I thought I was sharing good news with javascript developers:
qooxdoo is a great library and a very effective way of programming RIAs.
ie, Ignore Mr. Mark and his lapdogs.

Lisp programmers get better news, a qooxdoo/Lisp integration involving a
silver bullet dataflow implementation called Cells.

http://wiki.github.com/kennytilton/qooxlisp/
http://wiki.github.com/kennytilton/cells/

kt
From: Asen Bozhilov on
His kennyness wrote:

> You do not even know what my math editor does and are smart enough to
> talk about it anyway? Will you be my friend? i could learn so
> much....PWUAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAA!!!!!!

I always hate stupid people like you. cljs is strange place. Here come
different types of gurus and when they are denied they start to fill
comments like yours. I do not see any reasons for such a behavior. Are
you? cljs is probably the most valuable resource for javascript, but
with people like you in the near future will become at:

http://webdeveloper.com/
http://www.javascriptkit.com/cutpastejava.shtml

Go away and stop wasting our time with your brain problems!
From: Pascal Costanza on
On 01/07/2010 23:56, Asen Bozhilov wrote:
> His kennyness wrote:
>
>> You do not even know what my math editor does and are smart enough to
>> talk about it anyway? Will you be my friend? i could learn so
>> much....PWUAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAA!!!!!!
>
> I always hate stupid people like you. cljs is strange place. Here come
> different types of gurus and when they are denied they start to fill
> comments like yours. I do not see any reasons for such a behavior. Are
> you? cljs is probably the most valuable resource for javascript, but
> with people like you in the near future will become at:
>
> http://webdeveloper.com/
> http://www.javascriptkit.com/cutpastejava.shtml
>
> Go away and stop wasting our time with your brain problems!

Kenny has a long history of displaying such behavior at comp.lang.lisp
as well. There is not much you can do about it, other than trying very
hard to ignore him. Good luck.


Pascal

--
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Common Lisp Document Repository: http://cdr.eurolisp.org
Closer to MOP & ContextL: http://common-lisp.net/project/closer/
From: Kenneth Tilton on
Asen Bozhilov wrote:
> His kennyness wrote:
>
>> You do not even know what my math editor does and are smart enough to
>> talk about it anyway? Will you be my friend? i could learn so
>> much....PWUAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAA!!!!!!
>
> I always hate stupid people like you.

It's good to have a steady policy on important issues.

> cljs is strange place. Here come
> different types of gurus ...

What I see, in all honesty, is a sad place where a few people with an
axe to grind over popular JS libraries sit around bullying anyone who
tries to discuss (or learn about or get help with) those projects.

What bullies cannot handle is someone who stands up to them, a pattern
repeated here.

kt

--
http://www.stuckonalgebra.com
"The best Algebra tutorial program I have seen... in a class by itself."
Macworld
From: Andrew Poulos on
On 2/07/2010 6:28 PM, Kenneth Tilton wrote:
> Asen Bozhilov wrote:
>> His kennyness wrote:
>>
>>> You do not even know what my math editor does and are smart enough to
>>> talk about it anyway? Will you be my friend? i could learn so
>>> much....PWUAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAA!!!!!!
>>
>> I always hate stupid people like you.
>
> It's good to have a steady policy on important issues.
>
>> cljs is strange place. Here come
>> different types of gurus ...
>
> What I see, in all honesty, is a sad place where a few people with an
> axe to grind over popular JS libraries sit around bullying anyone who
> tries to discuss (or learn about or get help with) those projects.

I didn't actually believe the negative remarks about the popular JS
libraries until I had the temerity to use one in an elearning course I
was hired to build.

"What could the harm be, its not like I'm controlling a nuclear
reactor?", I thought.

Alas, while the actual building was fairly painless the reports from the
field started coming in about screen freezing, about data being lost,
about slowness and delays... None of which occurred during my testing
with the "major" browsers on the more common OS.

In fact I couldn't reproduce most of the issues. In the end I had to rip
out the library code and write my own and so now everything runs fine.

So if you ask me about popular JS libraries my experience has been that
they were easy enough to work with but they caused endless, and unending
pain.

> What bullies cannot handle is someone who stands up to them, a pattern
> repeated here.

Who exactly do you think is the bully here? Surely its the person
throwing nasty comments at people who freely gave objective feedback,
ie. you are the bully.

Andrew Poulos
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