From: Henri Wilson on
On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 22:22:57 +0200, "Paul B. Andersen"
<paul.b.andersen(a)deletethishia.no> wrote:

>Henri Wilson wrote:
>> On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 14:10:59 GMT, Aristotle
>> <wandering_philosopher(a)socratic_discipline.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>>>The program relies on the concept of 'closing speed of light', as defined by
>>>>>>SR.
>>>>>>How COULD it be wrong?
>>>>>
>>>>>See? :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>Henri Wilson won't tell us what the result was
>>>>>the one time he tested his program with measured data
>>>>>of a known binary.
>>>>
>>>>All that beer hasn't cured your tendency to rave.
>>>
>>>And you still REFUSE to answer the question. Are you a politician?
>>>You sure duck questions like one.
>>
>>
>> I have answered Andersen's question so many times that he has even forgotten
>> what the question was.
>
>Quite.
>And here is your answer to the forgotten question.
>
>Paul B. Andersen wrote in June 2004:
>| I think we now can sum up what the ballistic theory
>| predicts HD80715 should look like.
>|
>| "phase" is normalized, one period = 1.
>| "brightness" is relative to the brightness of a stationary star
>|
>| phase brightness
>|
>| 0.0 1.22
>| 0.1 1.21
>| 0.17 1.97
>| 0.18 2.45
>| 0.19 5.90
>| 0.1913 60.00
>| 0.191310 infinite
>| 0.2 0.66
>| 0.3 0.64
>| 0.4 0.63
>| 0.5 0.62
>| 0.6 0.63
>| 0.7 0.64
>| 0.8 0.67
>| 0.808719 infinite
>| 0.8089 21.6
>| 0.809 11.80
>| 0.81 3.90
>| 0.9 1.34
>| 1.0 1.22
>|
>| Note that the integral over one period is 1,
>| that is the average brightness is 1.
>|
>| The above is for one of the stars, you can get
>| the light curve for both stars by translating
>| the above half a period and adding.
>
>Henri Wilson responded:
>| I can get these figures from my program.
>|
>| Surprisingly, they agree exactly with yours..... proves my program is
>| correct.... not that I ever doubted it.
>|
>| So I could have saved you all that time and trouble.
>| Just click your mouse a
>| few times and...there is your curve.
>
>But HD80715 is no variable.
>
>So just by clicking his mouse a few times,
>Henri Wilson falsified the ballistic theory.

After clicking my mouse a few times I can come up with RAW figures for a single
star or a binary pair.
My RAW figures for a single star, agree with yours.

When I include thermal source speeds and extinction effects, my adjucted
figures for the binary pair known as HD80715 show an almost constant
brightness. Each contributes a small sinelike variation in brightness. The
curves are 180 out of phase.


>
>
>> Notice that he and his mates have run for cover over my proof that the mythical
>> 'GR correction' of GPS clocks if plain nonsense from start to finish.
>
>Indeed.
>There is no way we can refute your world shattering proof.
>"The fact that the clocks in the GPS behave exactly as
> predicted by GR, prove that the mythical
> 'GR correction' of GPS clocks if plain nonsense
> from start to finish."
>That's why we all have ran for cover.

The clocks rate change has never ben accurately measured. GPS clocks are
empirically software adjusted after being placed in orbit.

Why don't you give up Paul. The GR correction has been proven to be a myth.

>
>Paul


HW.
www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm

Sometimes I feel like a complete failure.
The most useful thing I have ever done is prove Einstein wrong.
From: sue jahn on

"Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen(a)deletethishia.no> wrote in message news:dc0tdg$lp3$1(a)dolly.uninett.no...
> Henri Wilson wrote:
> > On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 14:10:59 GMT, Aristotle
> > <wandering_philosopher(a)socratic_discipline.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>>>The program relies on the concept of 'closing speed of light', as defined by
> >>>>>SR.
> >>>>>How COULD it be wrong?
> >>>>
> >>>>See? :-)
> >>>>
> >>>>Henri Wilson won't tell us what the result was
> >>>>the one time he tested his program with measured data
> >>>>of a known binary.
> >>>
> >>>All that beer hasn't cured your tendency to rave.
> >>
> >>And you still REFUSE to answer the question. Are you a politician?
> >>You sure duck questions like one.
> >
> >
> > I have answered Andersen's question so many times that he has even forgotten
> > what the question was.
>
> Quite.
> And here is your answer to the forgotten question.
>
> Paul B. Andersen wrote in June 2004:
> | I think we now can sum up what the ballistic theory
> | predicts HD80715 should look like.
> |
> | "phase" is normalized, one period = 1.
> | "brightness" is relative to the brightness of a stationary star
> |
> | phase brightness
> |
> | 0.0 1.22
> | 0.1 1.21
> | 0.17 1.97
> | 0.18 2.45
> | 0.19 5.90
> | 0.1913 60.00
> | 0.191310 infinite
> | 0.2 0.66
> | 0.3 0.64
> | 0.4 0.63
> | 0.5 0.62
> | 0.6 0.63
> | 0.7 0.64
> | 0.8 0.67
> | 0.808719 infinite
> | 0.8089 21.6
> | 0.809 11.80
> | 0.81 3.90
> | 0.9 1.34
> | 1.0 1.22
> |
> | Note that the integral over one period is 1,
> | that is the average brightness is 1.
> |
> | The above is for one of the stars, you can get
> | the light curve for both stars by translating
> | the above half a period and adding.
>
> Henri Wilson responded:
> | I can get these figures from my program.
> |
> | Surprisingly, they agree exactly with yours..... proves my program is
> | correct.... not that I ever doubted it.
> |
> | So I could have saved you all that time and trouble.
> | Just click your mouse a
> | few times and...there is your curve.
>
> But HD80715 is no variable.
>
> So just by clicking his mouse a few times,
> Henri Wilson falsified the ballistic theory.
>
>
> > Notice that he and his mates have run for cover over my proof that the mythical
> > 'GR correction' of GPS clocks if plain nonsense from start to finish.
>
> Indeed.
> There is no way we can refute your world shattering proof.
> "The fact that the clocks in the GPS behave exactly as
> predicted by GR, prove that the mythical
> 'GR correction' of GPS clocks if plain nonsense
> from start to finish."
> That's why we all have ran for cover.

Newton would not have tho't it nonsense. He would have tho't
it plagarism.

<< The big difference between a standard clock in your home and
an atomic clock is that the oscillation in an atomic clock is between
the nucleus of an atom and the surrounding electrons. This oscillation
is not exactly a parallel to the balance wheel and hairspring of
a clockwork watch, but the fact is that both use oscillations to
keep track of passing time. The oscillation frequencies within the
atom are determined by the mass of the nucleus and the gravity
and electrostatic "spring" between the positive charge on the
nucleus and the electron cloud surrounding it.>>
http://www.atomic-clock.galleon.eu.com/atomic-clock/atomic-clock.htm

<<Tuning fork watches are inherently far less affected by these
problems. The fork has no bearings. It is far easier to "build in"
temperature compensation into a Tuning Fork than into a circular
balance wheel and it's hairspring. Gravity affects Bulova tuning
forks in only 2 orientations (tines up and tines down) compared
with the usual 5 positions of good quality balance wheel watches.>>
http://members.iinet.net.au/~fotoplot/accspec.htm

<< Example: Problem 87P

A damped harmonic oscillator involves a block (m = 2 kg), a spring (k = 10 N/m), and a damping force F = - b v. Initially it
oscillates with an amplitude of 0.25 m; because of the damping, the amplitude falls to three-fourths of its initial value after four
complete cycles. (a) What is the value of b ? (b). How much energy is lost during these four cycles ?

The time dependence of the amplitude of the oscillation is given by:
The period of one oscillation is given by:
The amplitude after 4 oscillations is therefore given by:
The angular frequency [omega] is related to the spring constant k and mass m in the following manner:
Using this expression we obtain for b
The mechanical energy lost during these 4 oscillation can also be easily calculated. >>

http://teacher.nsrl.rochester.edu/phy121/LectureNotes/Chapter16/Chapter16.html
http://galileo.phys.virginia.edu/classes/231.sc2k.fall00/chap13/chap13.html

Sue...


>
> Paul


From: Henri Wilson on
On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 23:05:18 +0200, "Paul B. Andersen"
<paul.b.andersen(a)deletethishia.no> wrote:

>Henri Wilson wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 23:21:46 +0200, "Paul B. Andersen"
>> <paul.b.andersen(a)deletethishia.no> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Aristotle wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>The program relies on the concept of 'closing speed of light', as defined by
>>>>>>>SR.
>>>>>>>How COULD it be wrong?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>See? :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Henri Wilson won't tell us what the result was
>>>>>>the one time he tested his program with measured data
>>>>>>of a known binary.
>>>>>
>>>>>All that beer hasn't cured your tendency to rave.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>And you still REFUSE to answer the question. Are you a politician?
>>>>You sure duck questions like one.
>>>
>>>Henri Wilson has tested his program only once with real
>>>measured data of a binary, namely HD80715.
>>>His program predicted that HD80715 should be a variable.
>>>It isn't.
>>>Henri Wilson has falsified the ballistic theory.
>
>See Henri diverting the attention:
>>
>> Paul, I think your time would be better spent training those pet fairies to
>> catch GPS clock ticks.
>
>Invoking fairies again, Henri?
>
>Henri Wilson wrote October 15. 2004:
>| OK Paul, I will never refer to PAUL ANDERSEN'S FAMOUS TICK FAIRIES again.......
>|
>| ....unless I have a justifiable reason.
>
>Can you state your justifiable reason please?
>Or would you like me to quote the conversation
>that made you make the above remark?
>I will do it with pleasure, you know.

You are free.

>
>>>He don't like to be reminded, as you can see. :-)
>>
>>
>> YOU don't like to be reminded that I have explained many time why it SHOULD NOT
>> be a variable.
>
>Quite the contrary, Henri.
>It gives me much pleasure to see your desperate attempts
>to explain why your program doesn't work.
>
>BTW, what DID you say the reason was?
>I must have forgotten.
>Was it something about gas which slows down photons
>to explain why light from distant galaxies are red shifted,
>but which OTOH adjust the speed of light from binaries to be c?

Only relativists believe that all light from stars travels at exactly c wrt
little planet Earth.

......and yes, molecules in rare space DO tend to unify the speed of all light
traveling in any particular direction. All light is redshifted in the process.


>
>> You can do it yourself if you like, using my program.
>
>Quite.
>Just a few clicks on the mouse, and you have falsified
>the ballistic theory.

no good joking Paul. Your faith has been proven wrong.

>
>Paul


HW.
www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm

Sometimes I feel like a complete failure.
The most useful thing I have ever done is prove Einstein wrong.
From: sue jahn on

"Henri Wilson" <H@..> wrote in message news:ic58e1pjat6ic3e7bbmokse4r9mu18q0up(a)4ax.com...
> On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 23:05:18 +0200, "Paul B. Andersen"
> <paul.b.andersen(a)deletethishia.no> wrote:
>
> >Henri Wilson wrote:
> >> On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 23:21:46 +0200, "Paul B. Andersen"
> >> <paul.b.andersen(a)deletethishia.no> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Aristotle wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>>>>The program relies on the concept of 'closing speed of light', as defined by
> >>>>>>>SR.
> >>>>>>>How COULD it be wrong?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>See? :-)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Henri Wilson won't tell us what the result was
> >>>>>>the one time he tested his program with measured data
> >>>>>>of a known binary.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>All that beer hasn't cured your tendency to rave.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>And you still REFUSE to answer the question. Are you a politician?
> >>>>You sure duck questions like one.
> >>>
> >>>Henri Wilson has tested his program only once with real
> >>>measured data of a binary, namely HD80715.
> >>>His program predicted that HD80715 should be a variable.
> >>>It isn't.
> >>>Henri Wilson has falsified the ballistic theory.
> >
> >See Henri diverting the attention:
> >>
> >> Paul, I think your time would be better spent training those pet fairies to
> >> catch GPS clock ticks.
> >
> >Invoking fairies again, Henri?
> >
> >Henri Wilson wrote October 15. 2004:
> >| OK Paul, I will never refer to PAUL ANDERSEN'S FAMOUS TICK FAIRIES again.......
> >|
> >| ....unless I have a justifiable reason.
> >
> >Can you state your justifiable reason please?
> >Or would you like me to quote the conversation
> >that made you make the above remark?
> >I will do it with pleasure, you know.
>
> You are free.
>
> >
> >>>He don't like to be reminded, as you can see. :-)
> >>
> >>
> >> YOU don't like to be reminded that I have explained many time why it SHOULD NOT
> >> be a variable.
> >
> >Quite the contrary, Henri.
> >It gives me much pleasure to see your desperate attempts
> >to explain why your program doesn't work.
> >
> >BTW, what DID you say the reason was?
> >I must have forgotten.
> >Was it something about gas which slows down photons
> >to explain why light from distant galaxies are red shifted,
> >but which OTOH adjust the speed of light from binaries to be c?
>
> Only relativists believe that all light from stars travels at exactly c wrt
> little planet Earth.
>
> .....and yes, molecules in rare space DO tend to unify the speed of all light
> traveling in any particular direction. All light is redshifted in the process.

Bless your heart!
Have you just discoverd something that Maxwell and Einstein
prefered to ignore?::

<<Two charges of one coulomb each separated by a meter would
repel each other with a force of about a million tons! >>

http://www.physics.utoledo.edu/~alukasz/ralem/Lecture2.htm

That might make most EM coupling structures
sit up and take notice. Eh?

Sue...


>
>
> >
> >> You can do it yourself if you like, using my program.
> >
> >Quite.
> >Just a few clicks on the mouse, and you have falsified
> >the ballistic theory.
>
> no good joking Paul. Your faith has been proven wrong.
>
> >
> >Paul
>
>
> HW.
> www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm
>
> Sometimes I feel like a complete failure.
> The most useful thing I have ever done is prove Einstein wrong.


From: Henri Wilson on
On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 18:29:11 -0400, "sue jahn" <susysewnshow(a)yahoo.com.au>
wrote:

>
>"Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen(a)deletethishia.no> wrote in message news:dc0tdg$lp3$1(a)dolly.uninett.no...
>> Henri Wilson wrote:
>> > On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 14:10:59 GMT, Aristotle
>> > <wandering_philosopher(a)socratic_discipline.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >>>>>The program relies on the concept of 'closing speed of light', as defined by
>> >>>>>SR.
>> >>>>>How COULD it be wrong?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>See? :-)
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Henri Wilson won't tell us what the result was
>> >>>>the one time he tested his program with measured data
>> >>>>of a known binary.
>> >>>
>> >>>All that beer hasn't cured your tendency to rave.
>> >>
>> >>And you still REFUSE to answer the question. Are you a politician?
>> >>You sure duck questions like one.
>> >
>> >
>> > I have answered Andersen's question so many times that he has even forgotten
>> > what the question was.
>>
>> Quite.
>> And here is your answer to the forgotten question.
>>
>> Paul B. Andersen wrote in June 2004:
>> | I think we now can sum up what the ballistic theory
>> | predicts HD80715 should look like.
>> |
>> | "phase" is normalized, one period = 1.
>> | "brightness" is relative to the brightness of a stationary star
>> |
>> | phase brightness
>> |
>> | 0.0 1.22
>> | 0.1 1.21
>> | 0.17 1.97
>> | 0.18 2.45
>> | 0.19 5.90
>> | 0.1913 60.00
>> | 0.191310 infinite
>> | 0.2 0.66
>> | 0.3 0.64
>> | 0.4 0.63
>> | 0.5 0.62
>> | 0.6 0.63
>> | 0.7 0.64
>> | 0.8 0.67
>> | 0.808719 infinite
>> | 0.8089 21.6
>> | 0.809 11.80
>> | 0.81 3.90
>> | 0.9 1.34
>> | 1.0 1.22
>> |
>> | Note that the integral over one period is 1,
>> | that is the average brightness is 1.
>> |
>> | The above is for one of the stars, you can get
>> | the light curve for both stars by translating
>> | the above half a period and adding.
>>
>> Henri Wilson responded:
>> | I can get these figures from my program.
>> |
>> | Surprisingly, they agree exactly with yours..... proves my program is
>> | correct.... not that I ever doubted it.
>> |
>> | So I could have saved you all that time and trouble.
>> | Just click your mouse a
>> | few times and...there is your curve.
>>
>> But HD80715 is no variable.
>>
>> So just by clicking his mouse a few times,
>> Henri Wilson falsified the ballistic theory.
>>
>>
>> > Notice that he and his mates have run for cover over my proof that the mythical
>> > 'GR correction' of GPS clocks if plain nonsense from start to finish.
>>
>> Indeed.
>> There is no way we can refute your world shattering proof.
>> "The fact that the clocks in the GPS behave exactly as
>> predicted by GR, prove that the mythical
>> 'GR correction' of GPS clocks if plain nonsense
>> from start to finish."
>> That's why we all have ran for cover.
>
>Newton would not have tho't it nonsense. He would have tho't
>it plagarism.
>
><< The big difference between a standard clock in your home and
>an atomic clock is that the oscillation in an atomic clock is between
>the nucleus of an atom and the surrounding electrons. This oscillation
>is not exactly a parallel to the balance wheel and hairspring of
>a clockwork watch, but the fact is that both use oscillations to
>keep track of passing time. The oscillation frequencies within the
>atom are determined by the mass of the nucleus and the gravity
>and electrostatic "spring" between the positive charge on the
>nucleus and the electron cloud surrounding it.>>
>http://www.atomic-clock.galleon.eu.com/atomic-clock/atomic-clock.htm
>
><<Tuning fork watches are inherently far less affected by these
>problems. The fork has no bearings. It is far easier to "build in"
>temperature compensation into a Tuning Fork than into a circular
>balance wheel and it's hairspring. Gravity affects Bulova tuning
>forks in only 2 orientations (tines up and tines down) compared
>with the usual 5 positions of good quality balance wheel watches.>>
>http://members.iinet.net.au/~fotoplot/accspec.htm
>
><< Example: Problem 87P
>
>A damped harmonic oscillator involves a block (m = 2 kg), a spring (k = 10 N/m), and a damping force F = - b v. Initially it
>oscillates with an amplitude of 0.25 m; because of the damping, the amplitude falls to three-fourths of its initial value after four
>complete cycles. (a) What is the value of b ? (b). How much energy is lost during these four cycles ?
>
>The time dependence of the amplitude of the oscillation is given by:
>The period of one oscillation is given by:
>The amplitude after 4 oscillations is therefore given by:
>The angular frequency [omega] is related to the spring constant k and mass m in the following manner:
>Using this expression we obtain for b
>The mechanical energy lost during these 4 oscillation can also be easily calculated. >>

I'm not going to do your homework for you.

>
>http://teacher.nsrl.rochester.edu/phy121/LectureNotes/Chapter16/Chapter16.html
>http://galileo.phys.virginia.edu/classes/231.sc2k.fall00/chap13/chap13.html
>
>Sue...
>
>
>>
>> Paul
>


HW.
www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm

Sometimes I feel like a complete failure.
The most useful thing I have ever done is prove Einstein wrong.