Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express 6 Service Pack 1 (KB837009)
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From: Home User on 30 Mar 2005 02:10 My IEXPLORE.EXE version is 6.0.2800.1106, and my MSIMN.EXE version is 6.0.2800.1123. So, my version numbers are correct. As far as my upgrade to IE6, I downloaded directly from the Microsoft Update web site. Running IE's Repair Tool has not had any effect. Neither has running it from Safe Mode. So, I'm still puzzled... "MowGreen [MVP]" <mowgreen(a)nowandzen.com> wrote in message news:u5$lhkMNFHA.4028(a)tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > Home User & XD, > > Home User ... IE6 Version 6.0.2800.1106IC > The IC means Internet Content Provider > > XD ... IE6 Version 6.0.2800.xxx6iS > your version of IE is provided by an Internet Service Provider > > Using Windows Explorer, navigate to Program Files\Internet Explorer > Right click IEXPLORE.EXE, choose Properties, then click the Version tab. > Do the same for Outlook Express but right click MSIMN.EXE to check the > Version. > > IE 6 SP1 for ME should be v.6.0.2800.1106 . > > Without Q837009 the Version number should be at least v.6.0.2800.1106. > OE, with Q837009, is v.6.0.2800.1123. > > See if running IE's Repair Tool reinstalls the correct version of OE if > the version numbers do not match. > Do so in Safe Mode so as to avoid any interference from a program loaded > at Startup : > > How to Start a Windows 98-Based Computer in Safe Mode > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=180902 > > Description of the Internet Explorer Repair Tool > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=194177 > > This *should* get the correct version of OE installed. > > Did both of you upgrade to IE6 SP1 or did the ISP/IP provide you with > IE on their CD ? > > MowGreen [MVP 2004-2005] > Windows Server - Software Distribution > Windows - Security > > =============== > *-343-* FDNY > Never Forgotten > =============== > > > > Home User wrote: > > > First of all, when I checked for reg key > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed > > Components\{2cc9d512-6db6-4f1c-8979-9a41fae88de0}, I found that it did not > > exist! > > > > Secondly, I don't have Outlook Express Q837009 listed in Add/Remove > > Programs. (All I have is Outlook Express Q887797, if that matters). > > > > Furthermore, I downloaded the update file and ran it from my computer, and I > > immediately got the message, "This Update requires Outlook > > Express 6.0 Service Pack 1 to be installed." > > > > That's bizarre! Any ideas? > > > > > > "MowGreen [MVP]" <mowgreen(a)nowandzen.com> wrote in message > > news:OiATh09MFHA.576(a)TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > > > >>Home User, > >>[ Posted to Winme.general, also ] > >> > >>The correct reg key to check is : > >> > >>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed > >>Components\{2cc9d512-6db6-4f1c-8979-9a41fae88de0} > >> > >>It should also be listed in Add/Remove Programs as : > >> > >>Outlook Express Q837009 > >> > >>MowGreen [MVP 2004-2005] > >>Windows Server - Software Distribution > >>Windows - Security > >> > >>=============== > >>*-343-* FDNY > >>Never Forgotten > >>=============== > >> > >>Home User wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Windows Update keeps telling me I need to install "Cumulative Security > >>>Update for Outlook Express 6 Service Pack 1 (KB837009)". I've installed > > > > it > > > >>>about a dozen times, and it still keeps showing up when I run Windows > >>>Update! > >>> > >>>Does anybody know a way to fix this? > >>> > >>>I am running Windows ME 4.90.3000 and IE6 Version 6.0.2800.1106IC > >>> > >>> > > > > > >
From: Robert Aldwinckle on 30 Mar 2005 12:07 "Home User" <Home_User(a)no.spam.net> wrote in message news:114kk91n65umcf1(a)corp.supernews.com .... >> > Secondly, I don't have Outlook Express Q837009 listed in Add/Remove >> > Programs. (All I have is Outlook Express Q887797, if that matters). > My IEXPLORE.EXE version is 6.0.2800.1106, and my MSIMN.EXE version is > 6.0.2800.1123. So, my version numbers are correct. That may not be enough checking. Unfortunately the latest update is not a security update and hence we don't have a file manifest for it. However we do have a file manifest for the prerequisite of the update that you have installed: <title>Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-018: Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express (823353)</title> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS04-018.mspx Expand [-] Security Update Information and [-] Outlook Express 6 SP1 for Windows XP, Windows XP SP1, Windows 2000 SP3, Windows 2000 SP4, and Windows NT 4.0 SP6a to see the file manifest. Check on the versions of *all* those modules listed. FYI a previous poster, Joann, had a similar symptom that you are having and in her case we found that msident.dll was somehow regressed. We suspect that it was that regression in combination with the fact that the updates were installed from the Security Updates CD which was causing WU to think that she needed to reinstall that otherwise superseded update. For more information here is a link to a search I did for a previous poster who reported the same symptom. <excerpt> Please read the following threads and see if you can use the information in them to solve your problem: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?query=joann+837009&dg=microsoft.public.windowsupdate&cat=en-us-ms-winxp&lang=en&cr=US&pt=&catlist=B0DE109D-10E1-4C3C-BCC9-8EB7A22FC6A0&dglist=&ptlist=&exp=&sloc=en-us (Web Interface to News search for joann 837009 ) Note that you may find more people more familiar with your OS (and all its possible configurations) on newsgroups which specialize in it. HTH Robert Aldwinckle --- </excerpt>
From: Home User on 30 Mar 2005 22:01 I checked out the info relative to Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-018: Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express (823353). It states Windows Millennium Edition is not critically affected by any of the vulnerabilities that are addressed in this security bulletin. Question: Is it still your recommendation to expand Security Update Information and Outlook Express 6 SP1 for Windows XP, Windows XP SP1, Windows 2000 SP3, Windows 2000 SP4, and Windows NT 4.0 SP6a to see the file manifest? Would it even be possible to check on the versions of *all* those modules listed, since it doesn't apply to Windows ME? I'm puzzled... "Robert Aldwinckle" <robald(a)techemail.com> wrote in message news:eneCOsUNFHA.3336(a)TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > "Home User" <Home_User(a)no.spam.net> wrote in message > news:114kk91n65umcf1(a)corp.supernews.com > ... > >> > Secondly, I don't have Outlook Express Q837009 listed in Add/Remove > >> > Programs. (All I have is Outlook Express Q887797, if that matters). > > > My IEXPLORE.EXE version is 6.0.2800.1106, and my MSIMN.EXE version is > > 6.0.2800.1123. So, my version numbers are correct. > > That may not be enough checking. Unfortunately the latest update > is not a security update and hence we don't have a file manifest for it. > However we do have a file manifest for the prerequisite of the update > that you have installed: > > <title>Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-018: Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express (823353)</title> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS04-018.mspx > > Expand [-] Security Update Information > and [-] Outlook Express 6 SP1 for Windows XP, Windows XP SP1, Windows 2000 SP3, > Windows 2000 SP4, and Windows NT 4.0 SP6a > > to see the file manifest. Check on the versions of *all* those modules > listed. > > FYI a previous poster, Joann, had a similar symptom that you are > having and in her case we found that msident.dll was somehow > regressed. We suspect that it was that regression in combination > with the fact that the updates were installed from the Security Updates > CD which was causing WU to think that she needed to reinstall that > otherwise superseded update. > > For more information here is a link to a search I did for a previous > poster who reported the same symptom. > > <excerpt> > Please read the following threads and see if you can use the information > in them to solve your problem: > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?query=joann+837009&dg=microsoft.public.windowsupdate&cat=en-us-ms-winxp&lang=en&cr=US&pt=&catlist=B0DE109D-10E1-4C3C-BCC9-8EB7A22FC6A0&dglist=&ptlist=&exp=&sloc=en-us > > (Web Interface to News search for > joann 837009 > ) > > > Note that you may find more people more familiar with your OS > (and all its possible configurations) on newsgroups which specialize in it. > > > HTH > > Robert Aldwinckle > --- > </excerpt> > >
From: Robert Aldwinckle on 31 Mar 2005 00:54 "Home User" <Home_User(a)no.spam.net> wrote in message news:114mqf1hmc5v140(a)corp.supernews.com... >I checked out the info relative to Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-018: > Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express (823353). It states Windows > Millennium Edition is not critically affected by any of the vulnerabilities > that are addressed in this security bulletin. Question: Is it still your > recommendation to expand Security Update Information and Outlook Express 6 > SP1 for Windows XP, Windows XP SP1, Windows 2000 SP3, Windows 2000 SP4, and > Windows NT 4.0 SP6a to see the file manifest? Would it even be possible to > check on the versions of *all* those modules listed, since it doesn't apply > to Windows ME? I'm puzzled... Definitely. It is a list of modules and they are modules which you have. The versions of those modules that you have will indicate to us what update you have applied. If it is as I suspect that your case is similar to Joann's one of those modules will be regressed to a version which is pre-837009 and that is the reason that you are getting that update continually reoffered. Then what would happen is that it couldn't be applied because you already have a superseding update applied: 823353 + 887797. BTW if your msinfo32 tool is at all similar to XP's you may find that using its list of loaded modules is the easiest way to compile your version of that list. E.g. in XP I can open the tool at that list by Run... (e.g. Win-R and enter:) msinfo32 /category SWEnvLoadedModules Then the contents of that list operates as a standard multiple selection list. E.g. select an element and copy it to ClipBoard with Ctrl-c or select several elements by pressing a the Ctrl- key each time one is selected and then copy the combined selection. Etc. If you'd rather not bother collect the necessary diagnostics which prove the reason for your problem you could guess that the reason is understood (as explained above) and then just uninstall the above two updates (at least) in the hope that doing that would create a more consistent set of those modules. (E.g. in the event that the hypothetical regressed module was one of the ones which was updated by either of those updates uninstalling them would restore the previous version of it which would likely be a non-regressed version. So far AFAIK nobody has a theory as to why so many people seem to have regressed versions of one of more of those modules.) HTH Robert ---
From: Home User on 31 Mar 2005 13:41
Here is what I have found: WABMIG.EXE REGRESSED WABIMP.DLL *NEWER VERSION WABFIND.DLL REGRESSED WAB32.DLL *NEWER VERSION WAB.EXE REGRESSED Msoert2.dll regressed Msoeacct.dll regressed MSOE.exe *NEWER VERSION inetcomm.dll *NEWER VERSION *Newer version than what was listed in the manifest, whereas REGRESSED was an older version. The rest of the file versions matched. "Robert Aldwinckle" <robald(a)techemail.com> wrote in message news:eAFfqYbNFHA.604(a)TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > "Home User" <Home_User(a)no.spam.net> wrote in message > news:114mqf1hmc5v140(a)corp.supernews.com... > >I checked out the info relative to Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-018: > > Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express (823353). It states Windows > > Millennium Edition is not critically affected by any of the vulnerabilities > > that are addressed in this security bulletin. Question: Is it still your > > recommendation to expand Security Update Information and Outlook Express 6 > > SP1 for Windows XP, Windows XP SP1, Windows 2000 SP3, Windows 2000 SP4, and > > Windows NT 4.0 SP6a to see the file manifest? Would it even be possible to > > check on the versions of *all* those modules listed, since it doesn't apply > > to Windows ME? I'm puzzled... > > Definitely. It is a list of modules and they are modules which you have. > The versions of those modules that you have will indicate to us what > update you have applied. If it is as I suspect that your case is similar > to Joann's one of those modules will be regressed to a version which is > pre-837009 and that is the reason that you are getting that update > continually reoffered. Then what would happen is that it couldn't be > applied because you already have a superseding update applied: > 823353 + 887797. > > BTW if your msinfo32 tool is at all similar to XP's you may find > that using its list of loaded modules is the easiest way to compile > your version of that list. E.g. in XP I can open the tool at that list > by Run... (e.g. Win-R and enter:) msinfo32 /category SWEnvLoadedModules > Then the contents of that list operates as a standard multiple selection > list. E.g. select an element and copy it to ClipBoard with Ctrl-c > or select several elements by pressing a the Ctrl- key each time > one is selected and then copy the combined selection. Etc. > > If you'd rather not bother collect the necessary diagnostics > which prove the reason for your problem you could guess > that the reason is understood (as explained above) and then > just uninstall the above two updates (at least) in the hope that > doing that would create a more consistent set of those modules. > (E.g. in the event that the hypothetical regressed module was > one of the ones which was updated by either of those updates > uninstalling them would restore the previous version of it > which would likely be a non-regressed version. So far AFAIK > nobody has a theory as to why so many people seem to have > regressed versions of one of more of those modules.) > > > HTH > > Robert > --- > > |