Dell Dim 8300 - System Slow to Boot-Up
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From: Nick on 22 Dec 2009 18:29 On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:49:01 -0800, in alt.sys.pc-clone.dell, charliech(a)email.com wrote: >Are there other things I can look at to determine why the boot-up is >so slow? > >I have a Dell Dim 8300, 4GB memory, WinXP SP3 and plenty of disk >space. Check in the BIOS setup and see if you have 'Quick Boot' (or whatever it's called) enabled. If you disable that, the startup routine does a more detailed check of the system's RAM, and that will cause a noticeable slowdown in booting up (especially with 4 GB of RAM). And, as other posted mentioned, check for any unneeded programs that are starting up every time you boot: those can slow things down. You can check what's being started by using MSCONFIG. On the 'Start Menu', choose 'Run', then type in 'msconfig' (and hit 'Return), then click on the 'Startup' tab for a list of what's automatically run each time you bootup. -- Nick <mailto:tanstaafl(a)pobox.com> For those who have trouble remembering the words for the song '99 Bottles of Beer on the Wall', somewhere on the Internet there's a page with the complete lyrics: all 100 verses! How on earth did humanity ever survive before we invented the Internet?
From: Daddy on 22 Dec 2009 18:30 On 12/22/2009 6:19 PM, Ben Myers wrote: > charliech(a)email.com wrote: >> My system now takes 5-6 minutes to boot-up. The only thing I can >> think of is I'm running NAV 2010. What setting(s) in Nav2010 might be >> causing the system to be so slow at boot-up - I checked the Settings, >> looking for something that might say "scan at startup" but did not see >> anything. >> >> Are there other things I can look at to determine why the boot-up is >> so slow? >> >> I have a Dell Dim 8300, 4GB memory, WinXP SP3 and plenty of disk >> space. >> >> Any thoughts/suggestions appreciated. >> >> Charliec > > In addition to malware and too many programs being loaded at startup, > there could simply be lots of junk files accumulated in the %temp% > folder. (Today, I encountered a Dell E310 with over 5000 files in the > %temp% folder, most all left behind by the crapware that HP installs for > its P1015 low-end newer laser printer. You bet the system booted slow > and ran slow.) > > So... Download and run Hijackthis to get a clear picture of all the > programs loaded at startup. > > Then... Download and run CCleaner to clean out the useless files. Also, > you can manually remove the useless stuff from %temp% without harm to > yourself or the system. > > Next... Defrag with Defraggler, from the same people who did CCleaner. > It tells you more about the fragmented files in a system and does a > better job than Microsoft's defrag. > > Finally... Defrag the registry with PageDefrag, assuming you are running > XP or earlier. > > And now really finally... NAV is an extremely complicated package... Ben > Myers I don't get it...How does the number of files in the Temp folder affect boot time? Are the files in the Temp folder read during bootup? Daddy
From: WSZsr on 22 Dec 2009 18:38 Run msconfig and disable the startup items to see if it boots faster <charliech(a)email.com> wrote in message news:ff82j5deijpa4tlngqegkt8kct0qmqk06t(a)4ax.com... > My system now takes 5-6 minutes to boot-up. The only thing I can > think of is I'm running NAV 2010. What setting(s) in Nav2010 might be > causing the system to be so slow at boot-up - I checked the Settings, > looking for something that might say "scan at startup" but did not see > anything. > > Are there other things I can look at to determine why the boot-up is > so slow? > > I have a Dell Dim 8300, 4GB memory, WinXP SP3 and plenty of disk > space. > > Any thoughts/suggestions appreciated. > > Charliec
From: Ben Myers on 22 Dec 2009 21:09 Daddy wrote: > On 12/22/2009 6:19 PM, Ben Myers wrote: >> charliech(a)email.com wrote: >>> My system now takes 5-6 minutes to boot-up. The only thing I can >>> think of is I'm running NAV 2010. What setting(s) in Nav2010 might be >>> causing the system to be so slow at boot-up - I checked the Settings, >>> looking for something that might say "scan at startup" but did not see >>> anything. >>> >>> Are there other things I can look at to determine why the boot-up is >>> so slow? >>> >>> I have a Dell Dim 8300, 4GB memory, WinXP SP3 and plenty of disk >>> space. >>> >>> Any thoughts/suggestions appreciated. >>> >>> Charliec >> >> In addition to malware and too many programs being loaded at startup, >> there could simply be lots of junk files accumulated in the %temp% >> folder. (Today, I encountered a Dell E310 with over 5000 files in the >> %temp% folder, most all left behind by the crapware that HP installs for >> its P1015 low-end newer laser printer. You bet the system booted slow >> and ran slow.) >> >> So... Download and run Hijackthis to get a clear picture of all the >> programs loaded at startup. >> >> Then... Download and run CCleaner to clean out the useless files. Also, >> you can manually remove the useless stuff from %temp% without harm to >> yourself or the system. >> >> Next... Defrag with Defraggler, from the same people who did CCleaner. >> It tells you more about the fragmented files in a system and does a >> better job than Microsoft's defrag. >> >> Finally... Defrag the registry with PageDefrag, assuming you are running >> XP or earlier. >> >> And now really finally... NAV is an extremely complicated package... Ben >> Myers > > I don't get it...How does the number of files in the Temp folder affect > boot time? Are the files in the Temp folder read during bootup? > > Daddy Windows programs use %temp%. If a Windows program uses %temp% for whatever temporary files it needs, the Windows file system has to go through all the entries for the sludge to find a slot in the folder's directory for the next file. The folder's directory can span many sectors if there are 5000 files, for example. And, of course, the folder's directory can be fragmented. Lot's of Windows programs use %temp%. The HP P2015 crapola software does and it stuffs files into %temp% at will. I have not figured out when and why it does so. It would make sense to put a command file in your startup, something like: cd %temp% del *.* to do some regular cleanup. Now, of course, a regular cleanup will not work if someone habitually or unknowingly stores important files in %temp%. Yep, I've seen this, too. .... Ben Myers
From: Charles on 23 Dec 2009 12:22
WSZsr wrote: > Run msconfig and disable the startup items to see if it boots faster > > <charliech(a)email.com> wrote in message > news:ff82j5deijpa4tlngqegkt8kct0qmqk06t(a)4ax.com... >> My system now takes 5-6 minutes to boot-up. The only thing I can >> think of is I'm running NAV 2010. What setting(s) in Nav2010 might be >> causing the system to be so slow at boot-up - I checked the Settings, >> looking for something that might say "scan at startup" but did not see >> anything. >> >> Are there other things I can look at to determine why the boot-up is >> so slow? >> >> I have a Dell Dim 8300, 4GB memory, WinXP SP3 and plenty of disk >> space. >> >> Any thoughts/suggestions appreciated. >> >> Charliec > Any chance it is running in PIO mode and not DMA if it pertains to this system? My son was having similar problems earlier this year until I had him check it. Charles |