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From: Alex Gibson on 21 Jan 2006 21:34 "Eric Smith" <eric(a)brouhaha.com> wrote in message news:qhmzhzslys.fsf(a)ruckus.brouhaha.com... > "Peter Alfke" <peter(a)xilinx.com> writes: >> I have struggled for decades to come up with enticing demo projects for >> digital circuits, and I have made my rules: >> It must be something that cannot be done with just a microprocessor. >> That means it must be something fast. Audio, video, radio, robotics >> come to mind. > > What? No traffic lights and vending machines? :-) > > It's always entertaining when people pop up in various newsgroups > (including this one), wanting help with their vending machine project, > and insisting that it isn't homework. But why would you set one of these as an assignment as there are lots of such projects on the net? Alex
From: Eric Smith on 23 Jan 2006 03:33 I wrote: > What? No traffic lights and vending machines? :-) > > It's always entertaining when people pop up in various newsgroups > (including this one), wanting help with their vending machine project, > and insisting that it isn't homework. Alex Gibson wrote: > But why would you set one of these as an assignment as there are > lots of such projects on the net? If I were an instructor, I certainly wouldn't use those assignments.
From: Tobias Weingartner on 23 Jan 2006 15:26 Peter Alfke wrote: > > Tobias Weingartner wrote: > > The only advice I was hoping to offer was one of "please reconsider opening > > the bitstream format". > > > Tobias, just to remind you, the following is what you wrote, > and that is what I strongly take exception to: > > "I'm no VLSI designer, but I can't imagine that putting > a simple AES engine onto the FPGA, along with some OTP ram for the key, > > would take any significant room. As a bonus, you may be able to offer > the simple AES engine for the FPGA to use once programming is done." > > That's what I call simplistic and un-informed advice. > I want to avoid the bovine excrement word... Call it as you see it. I tend to. And since you are much more versed as to what is possible and/or easy/big/small, I'll defer to your expertise on the matter above. Sorry to cause a stir. Still... can I get the bitstream info? :) -- [100~Plax]sb16i0A2172656B63616820636420726568746F6E61207473754A[dZ1!=b]salax
From: Antti Lukats on 23 Jan 2006 16:03 "Tobias Weingartner" <weingart(a)cs.ualberta.ca> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:slrndtaev9.6vd.weingart(a)irricana.cs.ualberta.ca... > Peter Alfke wrote: >> >> Tobias Weingartner wrote: >> > The only advice I was hoping to offer was one of "please reconsider >> > opening >> > the bitstream format". >> > >> Tobias, just to remind you, the following is what you wrote, >> and that is what I strongly take exception to: >> >> "I'm no VLSI designer, but I can't imagine that putting >> a simple AES engine onto the FPGA, along with some OTP ram for the key, >> >> would take any significant room. As a bonus, you may be able to offer >> the simple AES engine for the FPGA to use once programming is done." >> >> That's what I call simplistic and un-informed advice. >> I want to avoid the bovine excrement word... > > Call it as you see it. I tend to. And since you are much more > versed as to what is possible and/or easy/big/small, I'll defer > to your expertise on the matter above. Sorry to cause a stir. > > Still... can I get the bitstream info? :) > No, Tobias, you can not. The price of what you are asking is higher then you realize. If you want it, you will have to get it by reverse engineering. Antti
From: Kevin Morris on 25 Jan 2006 21:19
I want to thank everyone for their thoughtful, insightful, and provocative responses to my query. We've covered everything from politics to education to (strange as it seems) FPGAs. I've already contacted a number of you directly (and have a few more on my list), and I'm excited about the article. I'll post here when it's ready for publication, and we can all start a new thread about how badly I missed the boat. Thanks again! Kevin |