From: ~BD~ on 21 Mar 2010 13:43
David H. Lipman wrote:
> Please stop being so argumentative. I see it in too many threads you are in.
From: Virus Guy on 21 Mar 2010 14:03
David H. Lipman wrote:
> Berating ?
> No, educating.
Where was the educational component?
You chastised the OP for using "virus" when (according to you) he should
have used "trojan". Is that what you call education? Where was the
background information or explanation that actually gives some
"education" to the OP? Was he asking for it?
And my main point (which you haven't addressed) is the irrelavancy of
fighting the common useage of the term "virus" to describe what may very
well be trojans, or even worms.
> > Please stop being so argumentative. I see it in too
> > many threads you are in.
From: David H. Lipman on 21 Mar 2010 14:05
From: "Virus Guy" <Virus(a)Guy.com>
| David H. Lipman wrote:
>> Berating ?
>> No, educating.
| Where was the educational component?
| You chastised the OP for using "virus" when (according to you) he should
| have used "trojan". Is that what you call education? Where was the
| background information or explanation that actually gives some
| "education" to the OP? Was he asking for it?
| And my main point (which you haven't addressed) is the irrelavancy of
| fighting the common useage of the term "virus" to describe what may very
| well be trojans, or even worms.
If you don't see the instructional information in my reply then ....
I won't go there.
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
From: Beauregard T. Shagnasty on 21 Mar 2010 14:19
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From: FromTheRafters on 21 Mar 2010 14:20
"Virus Guy" <Virus(a)Guy.com> wrote in message
> "David H. Lipman" wrote:
>> In short, it is a trojan and not a virus
> Don't you think that berating people over the use of the terms "virus"
> and "trojan" is a waste of time?
There was a time when user education was thought to be the only hope in
combating malware (I think it is now considered hopeless). The
difference in the behavioral shift between trojan and virus is enough to
warrant differing methods of fighting them. The distinction is
*important* and it is unfortunate that the popular term for malware has
> What is the practical consequence of insisting on the useage of
> terms? Other than pointing out the correct term, you made no
> distinction between the two that was useful to the OP in this context.
Here, I agree. It would be much better if the important distinctions
were laid out. However, many folks just don't care about the details.
> I see little to no usefulness anymore in being critical over the
> interchangable common use of the word "virus" to describe various
> of malware, and specifically the us of the word "virus" to describe
> might actually be a trojan.
That is why the English language is getting so crappy. Important
distinctions are blurred in favor of popular misuse of terms.
> In more technical settings or circumstances the use of incorrect
> terminology can be a hindrence or distraction, but this forum (and
> specifically this and other similar threads) is no such place.
....but it offers a substantial opportunity to educate readers.