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From: Rod Speed on 13 Jul 2006 15:44 YKhan <yjkhan(a)gmail.com> wrote > Rod Speed wrote >>> or were they some kind of proprietary boot loaders, only >>> recognized by one particular manufacturer or model? >> Nope, if that was what was done, the HP site would have said that. > The only thing that the HP website talked about was > how to boot the original recovery CD, and nothing else. That is just plain wrong. > Nothing else is guaranteed it seems. And that too. If you cant boot say 98 and XP distribution CDs on that system, they would say so in the FAQ.
From: Rod Speed on 13 Jul 2006 15:46 Yousuf Khan <bbbl67(a)yahoo.com> wrote > Rod Speed wrote >> Quite a few of the cdrom drives of that era didnt like burnt CDs. >> Easy to try that possibility by replacing it with a modern drive. > Yeah, we did try that too. Took a relatively modern DVD burner > (pre-dual-layer though) from their other system and put it on here, > exact same result. Also tried an intermediate-generation 32X CD > burner, just for completeness -- all exactly the same. > If as George MacDonald suggests that the El Torito standard was not completely > implemented in this BIOS, then some CD-ROMs will not boot up, no matter how modern the > drive is that it attached to it. Sure, but its unlikely that if that was the case, it wouldnt say so in the FAQ, because plenty would try to boot distribution CDs of stuff like 98, XP, Ghost etc. Did you try resetting the bios completely as it documents ?
From: Rod Speed on 13 Jul 2006 15:51 Yousuf Khan <bbbl67(a)yahoo.com> wrote > George Macdonald wrote >> There were early El Torito BIOS implementations which only worked with "floppy >> emulation" boot mode and vice versa. I definitely recall a system which would boot >> from emulation CDs but not with Microsoft OS bootable CDs - this seems to be the >> converse case. If all else fails you could always try a boot manager > Well, unfortunately it's now too late to put a boot manager on it. Nope, that one I cited will still do that now. > The previous OS has been completely wiped off of its hard drive, and now it's simply a > matter of either reinstalling Windows 95 on it from its recovery CD, or getting one of > these Linux distros onto its hard disk from another system. Those aint the only two options now. > What are these Linux true image CD's? They're basically a special purpose bootable linux CD. Not gp linux tho, they always run TI. > Maybe we can install one of these things and have it complete its own installation from > its own hard drive? Not sure what you mean there. The TI 'rescue' CD just boots a sp version of linux that loads TI and allows you to do whatever you need to do with images and cloning.
From: Rod Speed on 13 Jul 2006 15:55 YKhan <yjkhan(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Unruh wrote: >> Does the machine have a floppy drive? You can boot from floppy in >> order to install Linux. > > Actually it does have a floppy drive, but there are no floppy disks > available. Besides even if we did get a floppy disk to boot from, > there's no guarantee that the drive even works any longer. The perils > of old technology. The usual way to handle that is to have a floppy drive that you use temporarily if the existing one doesnt work anymore. Not a shred of rocket science required at all. And you can certainly install almost any linux on the hard drive with that hard drive in something else and then just put it back in the Pav and it will work fine. Thats one area where linux is a lot easier than the NT/2K/XP family. Tho even very basic linuxes can have have real problems with those old dinosaurs even when they have bootable CDs.
From: Yousuf Khan on 13 Jul 2006 20:41
Rod Speed wrote: >> The only thing that the HP website talked about was >> how to boot the original recovery CD, and nothing else. > > That is just plain wrong. Yeah, really Rod? You basically know exactly what I read? > >> Nothing else is guaranteed it seems. > > And that too. If you cant boot say 98 and XP distribution > CDs on that system, they would say so in the FAQ. There were no Win 98 or XP distribution CD's for that system. Came out before 98, and way before XP. I had a retail XP CD of my own that I tried on the system to no avail. Yousuf Khan |