From: John Navas on
On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 07:35:48 -0400, in <i0shck011v(a)news4.newsguy.com>,
"J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet(a)cox.net> wrote:

>On 7/5/2010 12:30 AM, tony cooper wrote:
>> On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 21:16:31 -0700, nospam<nospam(a)nospam.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In article<fcl236pkbdr20l179bqh8vib0hc9otgamc(a)4ax.com>, tony cooper
>>> <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> And the main purpose of a phone is to make and receive telephone
>>>> calls.
>>>
>>> except this isn't just a phone, it's a multipurpose device. the phone
>>> is one of many functions. some people use the phone part a lot, others
>>> don't use it much at all.
>>
>> "I don't use the phone much" is quite different from "I don't have
>> phone service". I'm not discussing the amount of time spent on
>> various features. I'm saying that if it doesn't have phone service
>> it's silly to call it a phone.
>
>At best it's an unplugged phone.
>
>I guess that if one really wants a PDA one could buy a Treo or the like
>with no service, but it seems an expensive way to get one.

The game changer is Wi-Fi, which makes smartphones connected devices
even without phone service.

--
John

"Assumption is the mother of all screw ups."
[Wethern�s Law of Suspended Judgement]
From: John Navas on
On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 07:31:15 -0400, in <i0shck011u(a)news4.newsguy.com>,
"J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet(a)cox.net> wrote:

>On 7/5/2010 12:59 AM, tony cooper wrote:

>> One of the other smokers had this device that did all the things
>> you've talked about. (And functioned as a phone) He showed me this
>> screen where all of his frequent contacts showed up on the screen as
>> little blue dots in their present location. Some sort of GPS
>> function, I suppose.
>>
>> I asked him how he used this feature. He said he never had, but it
>> was there for him when he wanted it. Now that's fine for him, but if
>> I wanted to know where my wife was at any given time I'd call her on
>> my old phone-calls-only Nokia and ask her. Seems like it would serve
>> the same purpose.
>>
>> I can think of a use for it, though. If someone had a
>> girlfriend/wife/boyfriend/husband that they suspected of cheating, the
>> blue dot would give them away if it was matched with another blue dot.
>
>Nervous nellies with kids use it to spy on their kids' movements.

Likewise responsible parents who care about the safety of their kids.

--
John

"Assumption is the mother of all screw ups."
[Wethern�s Law of Suspended Judgement]
From: Allen on
Peter wrote:
> "Robert Coe" <bob(a)1776.COM> wrote in message
> news:713136l8r26b1p2ue9brjkb6g55qm162nf(a)4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 12:08:33 -0400, "Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net>
>> wrote:
>> : "John McWilliams" <jpmcw(a)comcast.net> wrote in message
>> : news:i0l22e$vfm$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>> : > Vance wrote:
>> : >> On Jul 1, 10:32 pm, Outing Trolls is FUN! <o...(a)trollouters.org>
>> wrote:
>> : >>> Counting the sales of cell-phones as cameras is like counting
>> the sales
>> : >>> of
>> : >>> microwave-ovens as clocks.
>> : >>
>> : >> A point for the Troll! Always give credit where and when due.
>> : >
>> : > Yes, a good'un. My cameras, and cars, TVs and telephones also have
>> clocks
>> : > in them. Over clocked I am!
>> :
>> :
>> : IOW you never actually know hat time it is.
>>
>> My most reliable time source is still my old quartz Seiko (never off
>> by more
>> than a few seconds a month). But the next best is my cell phone,
>> because the
>> service provider downloads the time. It doesn't read in seconds, but I
>> don't
>> have to worry about changing time zones or going on or off of daylight
>> time.
>> ;^)
>
>
> It was a reference to the old saw:
> "A man with one clock always know what time it is. A man with two clocks
> is never sure." :-)
>
Or, "A stopped clock is right twice a day".
Allen
From: Peter on
"tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:frm33654fg0vq0tomb1f51ke6r9d1c45cl(a)4ax.com...
> On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 09:01:58 -0400, "Peter"
> <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote:
>
>>"tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>news:pvn236thjol16jjbifu1sahm5airhk2ng6(a)4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 21:19:27 -0700, John Navas
>>
>>>>So are you now down to arguing semantics and labels? ;)
>>>
>>> It's always been about that. If it doesn't have phone service, it
>>> shouldn't be called a phone.
>>>
>>
>>What do I call my antique gum ball machine. It doesn't have gum ball
>>service.
>
> "Decor", or if you want to be a bit fancier: "d�cor".
>
>>What do I call my old coffee maker, that I have discontinued the coffee
>>service for.
>>(Please don't say junk)
>
> "Victim of budget slashing" if it's an office machine and you are now
> too cheap to furnish free coffee for the staff.
>

<G>

--
Peter

From: John Navas on
On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 09:59:56 -0500, in
<YuGdna_d_I_sbqzRnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d(a)giganews.com>, Allen
<allent(a)austin.rr.com> wrote:

>Peter wrote:

>> It was a reference to the old saw:
>> "A man with one clock always know what time it is. A man with two clocks
>> is never sure." :-)
>>
>Or, "A stopped clock is right twice a day".

Unless it's on military time. ;)

--
John

"Assumption is the mother of all screw ups."
[Wethern�s Law of Suspended Judgement]