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From: tony cooper on 5 Jul 2010 00:30 On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 21:16:31 -0700, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: >In article <fcl236pkbdr20l179bqh8vib0hc9otgamc(a)4ax.com>, tony cooper ><tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > >> And the main purpose of a phone is to make and receive telephone >> calls. > >except this isn't just a phone, it's a multipurpose device. the phone >is one of many functions. some people use the phone part a lot, others >don't use it much at all. "I don't use the phone much" is quite different from "I don't have phone service". I'm not discussing the amount of time spent on various features. I'm saying that if it doesn't have phone service it's silly to call it a phone. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
From: tony cooper on 5 Jul 2010 00:32 On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 21:19:27 -0700, John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: >On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 23:51:08 -0400, in ><fcl236pkbdr20l179bqh8vib0hc9otgamc(a)4ax.com>, tony cooper ><tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > >>On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 20:43:48 -0700, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> >>wrote: > >>>that's even sillier than before. the *main* purpose of a car is to go >>>someplace. >> >>And the main purpose of a phone is to make and receive telephone >>calls. > >The main purpose is whatever the owner wants it to be. > >>>however, as a mobile >>>internet device or a portable music/video player, it can't be beat. >> >>Well, then, call it a "mobile internet device" or a "portable >>music/video player". Don't call it a phone if is isn't a phone. >> >>What you have is a butterfly that you are still calling a caterpillar >>just because it started out as a caterpillar. > >So are you now down to arguing semantics and labels? ;) It's always been about that. If it doesn't have phone service, it shouldn't be called a phone. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
From: nospam on 5 Jul 2010 00:37 In article <pvn236thjol16jjbifu1sahm5airhk2ng6(a)4ax.com>, tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > >So are you now down to arguing semantics and labels? ;) > > It's always been about that. If it doesn't have phone service, it > shouldn't be called a phone. call it whatever you want. it's still useful without phone service.
From: nospam on 5 Jul 2010 00:40 In article <qon236ttj7cmptd0jc61pvcs7gm314rmgq(a)4ax.com>, tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > "I don't use the phone much" is quite different from "I don't have > phone service". I'm not discussing the amount of time spent on > various features. I'm saying that if it doesn't have phone service > it's silly to call it a phone. so what do you want to call it? iphone is its official name since it *does* include a phone but if a user never uses the phone part, it's still an iphone. some people do use iphones and android devices on pay as you go plans (which can be a few bucks a month) and others use them with *no* phone service, relying solely on wifi for connectivity for email and web browsing. as i said a while ago, an iphone without a phone plan is like an ipod touch that has a camera and gps. that might change with the next ipod though, as it's rumoured to be getting a camera in the next revision.
From: tony cooper on 5 Jul 2010 00:59
On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 21:37:22 -0700, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: >In article <pvn236thjol16jjbifu1sahm5airhk2ng6(a)4ax.com>, tony cooper ><tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > >> >So are you now down to arguing semantics and labels? ;) >> >> It's always been about that. If it doesn't have phone service, it >> shouldn't be called a phone. > >call it whatever you want. it's still useful without phone service. I don't argue with that. All those wonderful things you've listed are certainly useful for some people. Me, I want a phone. A few months ago I was called in on a three week project to grade school standard achievement tests for another state. I smoke, and there's a gazebo-like building where we smokers were segregated on our breaks. One of the other smokers had this device that did all the things you've talked about. (And functioned as a phone) He showed me this screen where all of his frequent contacts showed up on the screen as little blue dots in their present location. Some sort of GPS function, I suppose. I asked him how he used this feature. He said he never had, but it was there for him when he wanted it. Now that's fine for him, but if I wanted to know where my wife was at any given time I'd call her on my old phone-calls-only Nokia and ask her. Seems like it would serve the same purpose. I can think of a use for it, though. If someone had a girlfriend/wife/boyfriend/husband that they suspected of cheating, the blue dot would give them away if it was matched with another blue dot. I don't worry about that with my wife, though. I would just worry when her blue dot was at Neiman-Marcus or Nordstrom's or Bloomingdale's. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida |