From: Ryan McGinnis on
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Candidly, other than trolling, I can't understand why anyone would post
photos for review here unless they're asking some sort of question about
some sort of technique. This isn't Flickr.

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- -Ryan McGinnis
The BIG Storm Picture -- http://bigstormpicture.com
Vortex-2 image licensing at http://vortex-2.com
Getty: http://www.gettyimages.com/search/search.aspx?artist=Ryan+McGinnis

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From: George Kerby on



On 8/3/10 8:45 PM, in article nggh569tc4mkdbga87odtj5ui7sokmgqeg(a)4ax.com,
"tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 13:02:48 -0700, Savageduck
> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2010-08-03 11:36:58 -0700, George Kerby <ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com> said:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/3/10 10:21 AM, in article
>>> 2010080308215079149-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom, "Savageduck"
>>> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2010-08-03 08:13:13 -0700, George Kerby <ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com> said:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/2/10 8:21 PM, in article
>>>>> d9e7839f-2682-4eaf-bab0-fad5f2f66c2d(a)g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com,
>>>>> "Nervous
>>>>> Nick" <nervous.nick(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 2, 6:43�pm, Larry Thong <larry_th...(a)shitstring.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Baboons do it in the zoo, they even do it in the wild. �It must be a fun
>>>>>>> activity as it seems to be spreading.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm261/Ritaberk/Lice.jpg>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why did you choose to share this photo? Were you jonesing for a
>>>>>> reason to use a double exclamation point?
>>>>>
>>>>> Just when we thought Rita was gaining control of the medications, he veers
>>>>> off again. Oh well...
>>>>
>>>> ...but all things considered it is not a bad candid capture, clearly
>>>>
>>>> demonstrating just how good the 70-200 f/2.8 can be.
>>>>
>>>> The baiting, tongue in cheek subject lines continue to be a groan.
>>>
>>> Not just a 'groan', a completely derailed train of thought that most likely
>>> came from the influence of mis-managed pharmaceuticals.
>>>
>>> Tell me, looking at that photograph, the thought of baboons picking lice
>>> would be *your* primary choice for a cut line?
>>
>> No, but I understood the source of the metaphor she conjured up, and I
>> have seen scenes where primate behavior evokes a certain easily
>> anthropomorphized tender interaction.
>>
>>>
>>> Thought not. Most normal folks as well. Maybe Rita speaks from personal
>>> experiences? Dunno...
>>
>> Who knows? I never perceived any need for medication, only an
>> underlying odd humor.
>> Rita's subject lines have always been strangely provocative, and we all
>> seem to get drawn in and tangled up, regardless of how strange, or
>> however good, bad, corny, or in bad taste her images might be.
>> I always thought the big mystery to be the obsession with high ticket
>> equipment, and no apparent need for it. That, and the source of income
>> to support what appears to nothing more than a hobby. I have yet to see
>> anything from her of the same quality Bret has given us, or some of the
>> work submitted to the SI (present company not included.)
>
> I have no problem with her subject lines. They are sometimes amusing.
> I can't really see how they are at all harmful even to the
> humor-impaired.
>
> Those who don't like Rita/Larry will find fault with anything. That's
> their problem.
>
> His/her photographs run from barely adequate to reasonably good, and
> "reasonably good" is better than many do. Certainly better than the
> moths and vines that someone else seems to think are worth offering.
>
> It's a hobby, Duck. You don't have to be able to do National
> Geographic level stuff to satisfy hobby urges. I don't understand why
> people want to take away someone else's pleasure in pursuing their
> hobby.
>
> Your curiosity about the money he/she spends on equipment is somewhat
> naive. Go to any golf course and see if the golfers with the highest
> priced equipment are the best golfers. Watch to see if the owners of
> Corvettes and high-end BMWs and Mercedes are better drivers. Last
> time I went scuba diving there was a guy on the charter boat with a
> wrist computer that cost more than all of my equipment combined, and
> he couldn't get down to bottom at 60 feet using an anchor line because
> he held his breath and kept too much air in his BCD. He got back on
> the boat and left his dive buddy to go alone.

Obviously "Resort Trained". He needs to be certified by PADI or The Y.
Someone on the boat should have asked for his card beforehand...
>
> The attitude of every hobbyist is "More, and better, equipment will
> make me better".
>

From: tony cooper on
On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 10:15:56 -0500, George Kerby
<ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>
>On 8/3/10 8:45 PM, in article nggh569tc4mkdbga87odtj5ui7sokmgqeg(a)4ax.com,
>"tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 13:02:48 -0700, Savageduck
>> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2010-08-03 11:36:58 -0700, George Kerby <ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com> said:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8/3/10 10:21 AM, in article
>>>> 2010080308215079149-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom, "Savageduck"
>>>> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2010-08-03 08:13:13 -0700, George Kerby <ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com> said:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/2/10 8:21 PM, in article
>>>>>> d9e7839f-2682-4eaf-bab0-fad5f2f66c2d(a)g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com,
>>>>>> "Nervous
>>>>>> Nick" <nervous.nick(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 6:43�pm, Larry Thong <larry_th...(a)shitstring.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Baboons do it in the zoo, they even do it in the wild. �It must be a fun
>>>>>>>> activity as it seems to be spreading.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm261/Ritaberk/Lice.jpg>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why did you choose to share this photo? Were you jonesing for a
>>>>>>> reason to use a double exclamation point?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just when we thought Rita was gaining control of the medications, he veers
>>>>>> off again. Oh well...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...but all things considered it is not a bad candid capture, clearly
>>>>>
>>>>> demonstrating just how good the 70-200 f/2.8 can be.
>>>>>
>>>>> The baiting, tongue in cheek subject lines continue to be a groan.
>>>>
>>>> Not just a 'groan', a completely derailed train of thought that most likely
>>>> came from the influence of mis-managed pharmaceuticals.
>>>>
>>>> Tell me, looking at that photograph, the thought of baboons picking lice
>>>> would be *your* primary choice for a cut line?
>>>
>>> No, but I understood the source of the metaphor she conjured up, and I
>>> have seen scenes where primate behavior evokes a certain easily
>>> anthropomorphized tender interaction.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thought not. Most normal folks as well. Maybe Rita speaks from personal
>>>> experiences? Dunno...
>>>
>>> Who knows? I never perceived any need for medication, only an
>>> underlying odd humor.
>>> Rita's subject lines have always been strangely provocative, and we all
>>> seem to get drawn in and tangled up, regardless of how strange, or
>>> however good, bad, corny, or in bad taste her images might be.
>>> I always thought the big mystery to be the obsession with high ticket
>>> equipment, and no apparent need for it. That, and the source of income
>>> to support what appears to nothing more than a hobby. I have yet to see
>>> anything from her of the same quality Bret has given us, or some of the
>>> work submitted to the SI (present company not included.)
>>
>> I have no problem with her subject lines. They are sometimes amusing.
>> I can't really see how they are at all harmful even to the
>> humor-impaired.
>>
>> Those who don't like Rita/Larry will find fault with anything. That's
>> their problem.
>>
>> His/her photographs run from barely adequate to reasonably good, and
>> "reasonably good" is better than many do. Certainly better than the
>> moths and vines that someone else seems to think are worth offering.
>>
>> It's a hobby, Duck. You don't have to be able to do National
>> Geographic level stuff to satisfy hobby urges. I don't understand why
>> people want to take away someone else's pleasure in pursuing their
>> hobby.
>>
>> Your curiosity about the money he/she spends on equipment is somewhat
>> naive. Go to any golf course and see if the golfers with the highest
>> priced equipment are the best golfers. Watch to see if the owners of
>> Corvettes and high-end BMWs and Mercedes are better drivers. Last
>> time I went scuba diving there was a guy on the charter boat with a
>> wrist computer that cost more than all of my equipment combined, and
>> he couldn't get down to bottom at 60 feet using an anchor line because
>> he held his breath and kept too much air in his BCD. He got back on
>> the boat and left his dive buddy to go alone.
>
>Obviously "Resort Trained". He needs to be certified by PADI or The Y.
>Someone on the boat should have asked for his card beforehand...

He was certified. He couldn't have rented a tank from the dive shop
that owned the boat without being certified. Being certified doesn't
mean being comfortable diving. I didn't chat with the guy, but this
was probably his first dive below 30 feet and going down an anchor
line. Maybe even his first dive after his open water final dive for
certification. All of his equipment was new and expensive.

I don't know what the Y offers, but certification in this area is only
by PADI or NAUI. The classes may be at a YMCA pool, though.

>> The attitude of every hobbyist is "More, and better, equipment will
>> make me better".
>>

--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
From: Peter on
"tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:mrvh565rij3kj2prpd42hu7f9sceeqsf73(a)4ax.com...

>
> That's another area where "needs" don't come into play when it comes
> to spending money. People buy god-awful expensive sound systems and
> then listen to Lady GaGa or some-such. Cars sit next to me at
> intersections with thousands of dollars worth of sound equipment
> blaring out rap "music" so loudly that my door panel shakes. They
> have more money in their rims and wheels than my car costs.

I would venture that the the vast majority of them have their creit card
interest increasing at a higher rate than the payments they are making on
their cridit cards.

But whien they finally compromise their credit card debt, it is you and I
that are really paying for that equipment.
>
> To each his own.

As long as they don't bother me, or cost me money.


--
Peter

From: Peter on
"Stuffed Crust" <pizza(a)spam.shaftnet.org> wrote in message
news:4c59586d$0$5001$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
> In rec.photo.equipment.35mm tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>> intersections with thousands of dollars worth of sound equipment
>> blaring out rap "music" so loudly that my door panel shakes. They
>> have more money in their rims and wheels than my car costs.
>
> Once, just once, I came across a car blasting out Beethoven.
>
> It made my evening. :)
>


For blasting, I prefer the 1812. :-)

--
Peter