From: HeyBub on
Alistair wrote:
> On Jun 23, 3:35 pm, docdw...(a)panix.com () wrote:
>> In article <88dau9Fei...(a)mid.individual.net>,
>>
>> Pete Dashwood <dashw...(a)removethis.enternet.co.nz> wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>> Perhaps
>>> we all get what we deserve... :-)
>>
>> As opposed to the words of Gandalf the Grey: 'There are those who
>> live who deserve to die and those who die who deserve life. Can you
>> give it to them, Mr Frodo Baggins?'
>>
>> DD
>
> I didn't know that Gandalf the Grey was a renowned German philosopher.

While not as erudite as Gandalf, a common defense here in Texas is: "But,
yer honer, he NEEDED killin'! "


From: SkippyPB on
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 18:22:48 +0000 (UTC), docdwarf(a)panix.com () wrote:

>In article <mpi4265ie87cupsc2j5p15gi7v5448fucm(a)4ax.com>,
>SkippyPB <swiegand(a)Nospam.neo.rr.com> wrote:
>>On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 17:44:32 +0000 (UTC), docdwarf(a)panix.com () wrote:
>>
>>>In article <c13d227e-2b1f-4079-add2-abc0b667bff4(a)z8g2000yqz.googlegroups.com>,
>>>Alistair <alistair(a)ld50macca.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>On Jun 23, 3:47?am, "Pete Dashwood"
>>>><dashw...(a)removethis.enternet.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > And now I have found out that the coward behind the offensive email is
>>>>> > hiding behind a freely available anonymizer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Imagine for a moment what it must be like to be him/her... All that hatred
>>>>> just burning you up. I have to believe this is not a happy person. Perhaps
>>>>> we all get what we deserve... :-)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I know what it is like to be like that person. A friend of mine is a
>>>>certified paranoid schizophrenic with a burning hatred for foreigners
>>>>with a skin colour suggestive of even the most lightest of tans.
>>>
>>>[snip]
>>>
>>>>His views are hypocritical as he has black friends whom he classes as
>>>>whites because they don't behave like the stereotypical blacks he sees
>>>>in the worst of American TV.
>>>
>>>Mr Maclean, if he is a certified paranoid schizophrenic then his views
>>>might be seen less as subject to 'hyporcisy' and more as subject to
>>>'irrationality'. You might want to websearch the punchline 'dead men do
>>>bleed' for an example.
>>>
>>>DD
>>
>>Isn't all racism "irrational"?
>
>Whether it is or it isn't, attempting rational discourse with a certified
>paranoid schizophrenic might not be considered the most fruitful of
>passtimes.
>
>DD

Well I suppose it depends on which personality you are having a
discourse with.

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From: SkippyPB on
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 17:04:23 -0400, Michael Wojcik
<mwojcik(a)newsguy.com> wrote:

>SkippyPB wrote:
>>
>> Isn't all racism "irrational"?
>
>No; that's partly what makes it so dangerous. Much of so-called
>"scientific racism", for example, is quite rational: it consists of a
>set of premises, and conclusions formulated by the application of
>logic to those premises.
>
>The premises are ill-founded, and the conclusions abhorrent, but that
>doesn't make it irrational, however dangerous and wrong.
>
>"Rational" is not a synonym for "good" or even for "well thought out".

BS. There is nothing rational about judging a person because they
happen to have a different pigment in their skin than you do. At the
core, all human beings have the same building blocks - they are all
flesh and blood and sentient. Racism is a learned behavior and is
illogical and irrational.

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From: SkippyPB on
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 17:07:33 -0400, Michael Wojcik
<mwojcik(a)newsguy.com> wrote:

>Alistair wrote:
>>
>> There are limits to free speech.
>
>And whom can we trust to set them, and assign penalties for trespass?

Free speech by its very nature is limitless.

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From: Howard Brazee on
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 17:04:23 -0400, Michael Wojcik
<mwojcik(a)newsguy.com> wrote:

>> Isn't all racism "irrational"?
>
>No; that's partly what makes it so dangerous. Much of so-called
>"scientific racism", for example, is quite rational: it consists of a
>set of premises, and conclusions formulated by the application of
>logic to those premises.
>
>The premises are ill-founded, and the conclusions abhorrent, but that
>doesn't make it irrational, however dangerous and wrong.
>
>"Rational" is not a synonym for "good" or even for "well thought out".

Racism is a subset of classism, which is a subset of "my way is right,
therefore other ways are wrong". When we start off with a premise
that we accept as Truth, bending the facts to fit this premise is
common, even with people who try hard not to do this.

In the extreme, we have "creation scientists", and "race scientists".
But we also have real scientists who fudge data to get the "right"
results out quickly.

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