From: Terence Liu [MSFT] on
Hello Simon,

Thank you for your post here.

I understand that you encounter error 800423f4 when trying to backup SBS
Server. If I have misunderstood your issue, please do let me know.

I suggest that we first perform following generate troubleshoot steps to
see how it goes.

1. Please apply the following hotfix first, most this error will be fix by
this hotfix:

828481 Error 800423f4 appears in the backup log file when you back up a
volume by using the Volume Shadow Copy service in Windows Server 2003
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;828481

2. Since the error refers to the MSDEWriter, this issue may be related
with Microsoft SQL Server 2000 Desktop Engine (MSDE) database files. As
0x800423f4 is translated to VSS_E_WRITERERROR_NONRETRYABLE, I suggest that
we have a check the service account issue of the MSDE instance.

1). Run Services.msc to bring up the Service console.
2). Double click MSSQL$SHAREPOINT to open the properties page.
3). In the logon tab, please make sure this service is running under Local
System Account instead of a specific account.
4). Please check the same settings with MSSQL$SBSMONITORING service.
5). Restart the server and test your issue again.

3. Please install following hotfix to see how it goes:

Update is available that fixes various Volume Shadow Copy Service issues in
Windows Server 2003
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;891957

A new Volume Shadow Copy Service update is now available that fixes various
Volume Shadow Copy Service problems in Windows Server 2003
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;913648

4.
1). Try to find NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM Foreign Security Principal in Active
Directory Users and Computers. If you do not find it, please run the
following command to add it back:

net localgroup users "NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM" /add

2). Decided to try installing a new MSDE instance as a test using the
following command:

C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server SP4\MSDE\setup>SqlRun13.msi
blanksapwd=1
INSTANCENAME="SBSTEST" DATADIR="C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\"
TARGETDIR="C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\" /L*v
"C:\windows\temp\MSDE_SBSTest.log

3). Start the MSSQL$SBSTEST service. Also start the MSSQL$SBSMONITORING and
the MSSQL$SHAREPOINT services.

4). Then test the SBS Backup.

5). If the backup success finish, please uninstall the SBSTEST MSDE
Instance from Control Panel - Add/Remove Programs.

Test the SBS Backup.

If the issue persists, please kindly help me collect some information for
further investigation:

1. Save application event log and system event log as evt files on
problematic machines and send to my mailbox: v-terliu(a)microsoft.com

2. Please gather and send me the entire NTBackup log file for further
analysis.

C:\Documents and Settings\<user name>\Local Settings\Application
Data\Microsoft\Windows NT\NTBackup\data

3. Please gather an MPS setup report:

1) Please download the MPSRPT_SETUPPerf.EXE from the following link and
then run this tool to gather some information from the problematic computer:
http://download.microsoft.com/download/b/b/1/bb139fcb-4aac-4fe5-a579-30b0bd9
15706/MPSRPT_SETUPPerf.EXE

2) Double-click on the MPSRPT_SETUPPerf.EXE file.
[Note] This process may take some time; however, it will not have a
negative effect on the performance.

3) A CAB file will be generated in the
%systemroot%\MPSReports\Setup\Reports\Cab directory called
%COMPUTERNAME%_MPSReports.CAB. The CAB file will contain the reports
generated by the MPS Reporting Tool.

Send the .cab file directly to me at v-terliu(a)microsoft.com

Hope these steps will give you some help.

Thanks and have a nice day!

Best regards,

Terence Liu(MSFT)

Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

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| Subject: Re: SBS 2003 Backup failing
| Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 18:52:04 -0700
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| Yes, I've re-registered the VSS DLLs.
|
| I will try some of the troubleshooting steps in the Google Groups thread
you
| linked to below.
|
|
| "Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" wrote:
|
| > Have you re-registered the VSS dlls?
| > --------------------------------
| > net stop vss
| > regsvr32 ole32.dll
| > regsvr32 vss_ps.dll
| > Vssvc /Register
| > regsvr32 /i swprv.dll
| > regsvr32 /i eventcls.dll
| > regsvr32 es.dll
| > regsvr32 stdprov.dll
| > regsvr32 vssui.dll
| > regsvr32 msxml.dll
| > regsvr32 msxml3.dll
| > regsvr32 msxml4.dll
| > ---------------------------------
| >
| > Maybe some other nuggets here:
| >
| > VSS errors despite SP2 being installed
| >
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs/browse_th
read/thread/6674a35ce024d727/4f9d4c658037ace2?lnk=st&q=MSDEWriter%22+has+rep
orted+an+error+0x800423f4.+This+is+part+of+System+State&rnum=1&hl=en#4f9d4c6
58037ace2
| >
| > --
| > Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
| > ============================
| >
| > "Simon Daniel" <SimonDaniel(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > news:DA730AF9-BA7C-4E05-BBFC-F75D25C4E8FB(a)microsoft.com...
| > > Yes, I've seen that KB article and it doesn't apply in this case.
| > >
| > > How do I check which SQL instance VSS is using?
| > >
| > > The following two events appear in the application log when the
backup
| > > tries
| > > to run:
| > >
| > > Event Type: Error
| > > Event Source: VSS
| > > Event Category: None
| > > Event ID: 20
| > > Date: 13/08/2007
| > > Time: 11:00:22 p.m.
| > > User: N/A
| > > Computer: FRAEMOHS-SBS
| > > Description:
| > > Volume Shadow Copy Service error: A critical component required by the
| > > Volume Shadow Copy service is not registered. This might happened if
an
| > > error occurred during Windows setup or during installation of a
Shadow
| > > Copy
| > > provider. The error returned from CoCreateInstance on class with
CLSID
| > > {40700425-0080-11d2-851f-00c04fc21759} and Name
| > > MSSQL_ClientVirtualDeviceSet
| > > is [0x80040154].
| > >
| > >
| > > Event Type: Error
| > > Event Source: VSS
| > > Event Category: None
| > > Event ID: 6008
| > > Date: 13/08/2007
| > > Time: 11:00:22 p.m.
| > > User: N/A
| > > Computer: FRAEMOHS-SBS
| > > Description:
| > > Sqllib error: Failed to create VDS object. hr = 0x80040154.
| > >
| > >
| > > "Claus" wrote:
| > >> Have you seen this... http://support.microsoft.com/kb/912414
| > >>
| > >> Also, check which SQL instant VSS is using. Make sure it still
exists.
| >
| >
| >
|

From: Simon Daniel on
Can you please explain how to do that?

"Claus" wrote:
>
> Did you do a register search on the CLSID?
From: Claus on
Open Regedit and copy/paste the CLSID from your error message into Edit/Find
and see what this maps to.

--
Claus
"Simon Daniel" <SimonDaniel(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:407CD91F-DFCA-4966-B8A0-C8D642C2495C(a)microsoft.com...
> Can you please explain how to do that?
>
> "Claus" wrote:
>>
>> Did you do a register search on the CLSID?


From: Terence Liu [MSFT] on
Hello Simon,

How about my suggestion? Do you have a try of them?

If there's anything unclear or if you have any concern on it, please do not
hesitate to let me know.

Thank you and have a nice day,

Best regards,

Terence Liu(MSFT)

Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

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| > Did you do a register search on the CLSID?
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From: Simon Daniel on
Thanks a lot Terence.

Your suggestion to install a new MSDE instance MSSQL$SBSTEST fixed the
problem. After I uninstalled the MSSQL$SBSTEST instance the backup still
works.


"Terence Liu [MSFT]" wrote:

> Hello Simon,
>
> Thank you for your post here.
>
> I understand that you encounter error 800423f4 when trying to backup SBS
> Server. If I have misunderstood your issue, please do let me know.
>
> I suggest that we first perform following generate troubleshoot steps to
> see how it goes.
>
> 1. Please apply the following hotfix first, most this error will be fix by
> this hotfix:
>
> 828481 Error 800423f4 appears in the backup log file when you back up a
> volume by using the Volume Shadow Copy service in Windows Server 2003
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;828481
>
> 2. Since the error refers to the MSDEWriter, this issue may be related
> with Microsoft SQL Server 2000 Desktop Engine (MSDE) database files. As
> 0x800423f4 is translated to VSS_E_WRITERERROR_NONRETRYABLE, I suggest that
> we have a check the service account issue of the MSDE instance.
>
> 1). Run Services.msc to bring up the Service console.
> 2). Double click MSSQL$SHAREPOINT to open the properties page.
> 3). In the logon tab, please make sure this service is running under Local
> System Account instead of a specific account.
> 4). Please check the same settings with MSSQL$SBSMONITORING service.
> 5). Restart the server and test your issue again.
>
> 3. Please install following hotfix to see how it goes:
>
> Update is available that fixes various Volume Shadow Copy Service issues in
> Windows Server 2003
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;891957
>
> A new Volume Shadow Copy Service update is now available that fixes various
> Volume Shadow Copy Service problems in Windows Server 2003
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;913648
>
> 4.
> 1). Try to find NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM Foreign Security Principal in Active
> Directory Users and Computers. If you do not find it, please run the
> following command to add it back:
>
> net localgroup users "NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM" /add
>
> 2). Decided to try installing a new MSDE instance as a test using the
> following command:
>
> C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server SP4\MSDE\setup>SqlRun13.msi
> blanksapwd=1
> INSTANCENAME="SBSTEST" DATADIR="C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\"
> TARGETDIR="C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\" /L*v
> "C:\windows\temp\MSDE_SBSTest.log
>
> 3). Start the MSSQL$SBSTEST service. Also start the MSSQL$SBSMONITORING and
> the MSSQL$SHAREPOINT services.
>
> 4). Then test the SBS Backup.
>
> 5). If the backup success finish, please uninstall the SBSTEST MSDE
> Instance from Control Panel - Add/Remove Programs.
>
> Test the SBS Backup.
>
> If the issue persists, please kindly help me collect some information for
> further investigation:
>
> 1. Save application event log and system event log as evt files on
> problematic machines and send to my mailbox: v-terliu(a)microsoft.com
>
> 2. Please gather and send me the entire NTBackup log file for further
> analysis.
>
> C:\Documents and Settings\<user name>\Local Settings\Application
> Data\Microsoft\Windows NT\NTBackup\data
>
> 3. Please gather an MPS setup report:
>
> 1) Please download the MPSRPT_SETUPPerf.EXE from the following link and
> then run this tool to gather some information from the problematic computer:
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/b/b/1/bb139fcb-4aac-4fe5-a579-30b0bd9
> 15706/MPSRPT_SETUPPerf.EXE
>
> 2) Double-click on the MPSRPT_SETUPPerf.EXE file.
> [Note] This process may take some time; however, it will not have a
> negative effect on the performance.
>
> 3) A CAB file will be generated in the
> %systemroot%\MPSReports\Setup\Reports\Cab directory called
> %COMPUTERNAME%_MPSReports.CAB. The CAB file will contain the reports
> generated by the MPS Reporting Tool.
>
> Send the .cab file directly to me at v-terliu(a)microsoft.com
>
> Hope these steps will give you some help.
>
> Thanks and have a nice day!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Terence Liu(MSFT)
>
> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
>
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
>
> =====================================================
> This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have issues
> regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the corresponding
> newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely manner.
> You can locate the newsgroup here:
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx
>
> When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you check the
> "Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications when there are
> any updates in your thread. When responding to posts via your newsreader,
> please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit from your
> issue.
>
> Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread. Although we
> provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
> different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In doing
> so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
>
> For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly. Please
> check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
>
> Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
> =====================================================
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.