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From: Douglas Ofner on 5 Aug 2010 16:32 LOB app runs independent of the domain, it could be installed on XP. No AD authentication. My concerns are not witht he LOB app at all, but more with demoting all the other AD servers and letting the SBS take control. If the SBS goes down, will the other AD server (which have been demoted since the SBS addition) be abke to authenticate our local 7 users? Much thanks for your help and time. "Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]" wrote: > If the LOB app resides on the server and the server is configured as an Active Directory domain, then users must logon to the Domain before they can have access to the resource, even if the LOB app has its own user name and password setup, therefore a CAL is consumed, just by logging onto the domain. > > -- > Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] (since 1997) > Co-Contributor, Windows Small Business Server 2008 Unleashed > http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Small-Business-Server-Unleashed/dp/0672329573/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217269967&sr=8-1 > Owner, CPU Services, Belleville, IL > A Microsoft Registered Partner > ------------------------------------ > MVPs do not work for Microsoft > Please do not submit questions directly to me. > > "Douglas Ofner" <DouglasOfner(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:48C800D4-6075-413F-BAF9-5D242F5F41FA(a)microsoft.com... > The LOB app does not use CAL's.... > > "Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]" wrote: > > > SBS is not the right fit for you. > > You're going to be exceeding the 75 CAL limit > > > > -- > > Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] (since 1997) > > Co-Contributor, Windows Small Business Server 2008 Unleashed > > http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Small-Business-Server-Unleashed/dp/0672329573/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217269967&sr=8-1 > > Owner, CPU Services, Belleville, IL > > A Microsoft Registered Partner > > ------------------------------------ > > MVPs do not work for Microsoft > > Please do not submit questions directly to me. > > > > "Douglas Ofner" <DouglasOfner(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:6AEDE8E9-186D-4C22-A982-77925D6DD24D(a)microsoft.com... > > Thanks Jim. > > > > The LOB app's are all services that authenticate with administrator rights > > and all resources it needs are all local to that particular physical machine. > > And currently that machine is a AD server. This is why i am skeptical about > > demoting that machine and letting the SBS be the "Boss Hog" of the network. > > > > > > > > "Jim" wrote: > > > > > Line Of Business. In other words, the application that is hosted on > > > your box that the people in the business are using. > > >
From: Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] on 5 Aug 2010 16:47 Yes they will be able to authenicate. They should also be made Global Catalog and DNS servers and you have to take into account for DHCP if the SBS server goes down. I still think you misunderstand the LOB app and it's relationship to resources on the server If the LOB is located on A Server (any server) handled by SBS and there are NTFS permissions on that folder, and in order to access that folder you must logon to the active directory network, regardless of anything esle...a CAL is required. -- Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] (since 1997) Co-Contributor, Windows Small Business Server 2008 Unleashed http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Small-Business-Server-Unleashed/dp/0672329573/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217269967&sr=8-1 Owner, CPU Services, Belleville, IL A Microsoft Registered Partner ------------------------------------ MVPs do not work for Microsoft Please do not submit questions directly to me. "Douglas Ofner" <DouglasOfner(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:1CB6CDF1-7859-4CBE-AA30-B9FE9FA7E013(a)microsoft.com... LOB app runs independent of the domain, it could be installed on XP. No AD authentication. My concerns are not witht he LOB app at all, but more with demoting all the other AD servers and letting the SBS take control. If the SBS goes down, will the other AD server (which have been demoted since the SBS addition) be abke to authenticate our local 7 users? Much thanks for your help and time. "Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]" wrote: > If the LOB app resides on the server and the server is configured as an Active Directory domain, then users must logon to the Domain before they can have access to the resource, even if the LOB app has its own user name and password setup, therefore a CAL is consumed, just by logging onto the domain. > > -- > Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] (since 1997) > Co-Contributor, Windows Small Business Server 2008 Unleashed > http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Small-Business-Server-Unleashed/dp/0672329573/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217269967&sr=8-1 > Owner, CPU Services, Belleville, IL > A Microsoft Registered Partner > ------------------------------------ > MVPs do not work for Microsoft > Please do not submit questions directly to me. > > "Douglas Ofner" <DouglasOfner(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:48C800D4-6075-413F-BAF9-5D242F5F41FA(a)microsoft.com... > The LOB app does not use CAL's.... > > "Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]" wrote: > > > SBS is not the right fit for you. > > You're going to be exceeding the 75 CAL limit > > > > -- > > Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] (since 1997) > > Co-Contributor, Windows Small Business Server 2008 Unleashed > > http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Small-Business-Server-Unleashed/dp/0672329573/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217269967&sr=8-1 > > Owner, CPU Services, Belleville, IL > > A Microsoft Registered Partner > > ------------------------------------ > > MVPs do not work for Microsoft > > Please do not submit questions directly to me. > > > > "Douglas Ofner" <DouglasOfner(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:6AEDE8E9-186D-4C22-A982-77925D6DD24D(a)microsoft.com... > > Thanks Jim. > > > > The LOB app's are all services that authenticate with administrator rights > > and all resources it needs are all local to that particular physical machine. > > And currently that machine is a AD server. This is why i am skeptical about > > demoting that machine and letting the SBS be the "Boss Hog" of the network. > > > > > > > > "Jim" wrote: > > > > > Line Of Business. In other words, the application that is hosted on > > > your box that the people in the business are using. > > >
From: Larry Struckmeyer[SBS-MVP] on 5 Aug 2010 21:14
I think you may be overlooking the part where it says that you do not have to demote the other servers. SBS is quite happy with additional servers. I did skim the entire thread and I see where you have acknowleged this earlier, so why is it still an issue? -Larry -Please post the resolution to your issue so others may benefit. -Get Your SBS Health Check at www.sbsbpa.com |