Upgrading from Me to XP problem.
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From: Bruce Coryell on 12 Sep 2006 06:49 Lanky wrote: > On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 15:16:22 -0700, "Julie" <nospam(a)nospam.here> wrote: > > >>Lanky wrote: >> >>>On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 19:13:17 GMT, "relic" >>><mailbounce(a)relic211.cjb.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Lanky wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 15:10:01 GMT, "relic" >>>>><mailbounce(a)relic211.cjb.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Lanky wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 14:56:56 +0100, Lanky >>>>>>><Lanky(a)behindbikeshed.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 22:33:14 GMT, "relic" >>>>>>>><mailbounce(a)relic211.cjb.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Lanky wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 20:44:37 GMT, "relic" >>>>>>>>>><mailbounce(a)relic211.cjb.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Lanky wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Trying to upgrade from Windows Me to XP Home Edition using >>>>>>>>>>>>the MS upgrade pack. Gateway computer 512Ram 20G + 100G HD >>>>>>>>>>>>should be fine for the upgrade. I don't have the disc for >>>>>>>>>>>>WinMe it was preinstalled on the Gateway and I only have a >>>>>>>>>>>>recovery disc so I can't do a new install of XP. >>>>>>>>>>>>The upgrade loads up to the point of copying the installation >>>>>>>>>>>>files 60 or 70% complete ready to install then, then the >>>>>>>>>>>>screen goes black and a reboot starts. A message shows >>>>>>>>>>>>giving the option to reboot from disc, if I take that option >>>>>>>>>>>>it asks for the WinMe disc which I don't have, not taking >>>>>>>>>>>>that option starts a HD scan then boots WinMe which them >>>>>>>>>>>>runs normally. I've tried msconfig selecting only *statemgr, >>>>>>>>>>>>same thing happens. >>>>>>>>>>>>Any ideas before I phone MS Help which is sure to be >>>>>>>>>>>>frustrating experience? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>I can explain what to do step-by-step, but your ME will be >>>>>>>>>>>gone completely doing it my way (XP should be a clean install >>>>>>>>>>>when you're going from a Windows 9x base to the NT base). >>>>>>>>>>>That would make it impossible for you to install it in the >>>>>>>>>>>future using an upgrade XP CD. Do you have, or can you get a >>>>>>>>>>>copy of a Windows 95/98/98SE/ME CD? (You wouldn't need the >>>>>>>>>>>Key, just the CD.) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>I have all my stuff backed up on my laptop running on XP so I >>>>>>>>>>would prefer a clean install but didn't think I could do that >>>>>>>>>>without an Me disc. I have a Windows 95 disc from way back, >>>>>>>>>>will that really work?? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Yes. It's not documented at Microsoft.com, but a Windows 95 CD >>>>>>>>>will satisfy the "Proof of a Qualifying Product." You can delete >>>>>>>>>all the partitions and start over if you want. If you boot from >>>>>>>>>the XP CD and follow the prompts for an Installation, just after >>>>>>>>>you have to hit F8 to accept the EULA, you will get the >>>>>>>>>Delete/Create Partitions option at the bottom when you select >>>>>>>>>the drive to install XP onto. You can delete everything there, >>>>>>>>>then create a new partiton... it will format it before >>>>>>>>>continueing the installation. Any other Partitioning and >>>>>>>>>Formatting you want to do can be done while running XP using >>>>>>>>>its Disk Management. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Note: XP will not create a FAT32 Partition greater than 32GB. It >>>>>>>>>can use any size, it just won't create one. Decide ahead if you >>>>>>>>>want NTFS (recommended), I don't like to convert from FAT32 >>>>>>>>>later. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>The Windows 95 disc worked fine and booting for the XP upgrade >>>>>>>>disc began formatting for NTFS then the following blue screen >>>>>>>>came up: "A problem has been detected and windows has been shut >>>>>>>>down to prevent damage to your computer.PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED >>>>>>>>-AREA. >>>>>>>>If this is the first time you've seen this stop error screen >>>>>>>>restart your computer. If this is a new installation ask your >>>>>>>>hardware or software manufacturer for any windows updates you >>>>>>>>might need >>>>>>>>If problems continue disable or remove any newly installed >>>>>>>>hardware or software. Disable BIOS memory options such as >>>>>>>>caching or shadowing. >>>>>>>>If you need to use safe mode to remove or disable components, >>>>>>>>restart your computer, press F8 to select Advanced startup >>>>>>>>options and then select safe mode. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Tech info: >>>>>>>>***STOP: 0XO0000050 >>>>>>>>(OXF2120054, 0X00000000,0X00000000,0X000000000)" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Thinking it could be the additional 100G HD I had installed a >>>>>>>>while back, I disconnected that and tried again with the same >>>>>>>>result, except that the Tech Inf change to >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>(OXF2525494, 0X00000000,0X00000000,0X000000000) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I am now well out of my depth with this and have no idea how to >>>>>>>>proceed. Pressing F8 doesn't offer Advance startup options and >>>>>>>>disabling anything to do with the BIOS sounds scary. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Gave it one more go. This time it completed the formatting of the >>>>>>>20G HD (the 100G one still unplugged) started copying files, when >>>>>>>51% complete the blue screen returned. This time the Tech Info >>>>>>>reads "0XF000EEFB,OXOOOOOOOO, 0X80818B20, 0X00000000) >>>>>>>Surely XP doesn't need the whole of a 20G HD does it? The 20G is >>>>>>>the master and the 100G the slave, would changing them around >>>>>>>help, if I could find out how to do it? >>>>>> >>>>>>There's a chance you'll have to update your motherboard BIOS. >>>>>> >>>>>>Remove all extra components except your HDD and Video Card... Sound >>>>>>Cards, etc. then install. The removed cards can be installed later. >>>>>>A fairly common cause of STOP 0x50 is an IRQ Conflict with the >>>>>>Sound Card and another device. (Even on-board sound device can >>>>>>conflict with something else. Sound Cards seem to only get along >>>>>>with USB sharing of IRQs.) >>>>>> >>>>>>XP needs 5~10GB of disk space (<5 when installed, but it will >>>>>>grow). >>>>>> >>>>>>Do you know your motherboard manufacturer? I know some Gateway >>>>>>machines used Intel motherboards... or just list the model number >>>>>>and I'll look around. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>933 PERFORMANCE SYSTEM UK >>>>> Processor INTEL PENTIUM III 933MHZ PROCESSOR >>>>>MEMORY 128MB 133MHZ SDRAM MEMORY (1 X 128MB) INCREASED >>>>>TO 2 X 256MB VIDEO CARD 32MB
From: relic on 12 Sep 2006 11:03 Lanky wrote: > On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 15:16:22 -0700, "Julie" <nospam(a)nospam.here> > wrote: > >> Lanky wrote: >>> On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 19:13:17 GMT, "relic" >>> <mailbounce(a)relic211.cjb.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Lanky wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 15:10:01 GMT, "relic" >>>>> <mailbounce(a)relic211.cjb.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Lanky wrote: >>>>>>> On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 14:56:56 +0100, Lanky >>>>>>> <Lanky(a)behindbikeshed.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 22:33:14 GMT, "relic" >>>>>>>> <mailbounce(a)relic211.cjb.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Lanky wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 20:44:37 GMT, "relic" >>>>>>>>>> <mailbounce(a)relic211.cjb.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Lanky wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Trying to upgrade from Windows Me to XP Home Edition using >>>>>>>>>>>> the MS upgrade pack. Gateway computer 512Ram 20G + 100G HD >>>>>>>>>>>> should be fine for the upgrade. I don't have the disc for >>>>>>>>>>>> WinMe it was preinstalled on the Gateway and I only have a >>>>>>>>>>>> recovery disc so I can't do a new install of XP. >>>>>>>>>>>> The upgrade loads up to the point of copying the >>>>>>>>>>>> installation files 60 or 70% complete ready to install >>>>>>>>>>>> then, then the screen goes black and a reboot starts. A >>>>>>>>>>>> message shows giving the option to reboot from disc, if I >>>>>>>>>>>> take that option it asks for the WinMe disc which I don't >>>>>>>>>>>> have, not taking that option starts a HD scan then boots >>>>>>>>>>>> WinMe which them runs normally. I've tried msconfig >>>>>>>>>>>> selecting only *statemgr, same thing happens. >>>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas before I phone MS Help which is sure to be >>>>>>>>>>>> frustrating experience? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I can explain what to do step-by-step, but your ME will be >>>>>>>>>>> gone completely doing it my way (XP should be a clean >>>>>>>>>>> install when you're going from a Windows 9x base to the NT >>>>>>>>>>> base). That would make it impossible for you to install it >>>>>>>>>>> in the future using an upgrade XP CD. Do you have, or can >>>>>>>>>>> you get a copy of a Windows 95/98/98SE/ME CD? (You wouldn't >>>>>>>>>>> need the Key, just the CD.) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have all my stuff backed up on my laptop running on XP so I >>>>>>>>>> would prefer a clean install but didn't think I could do that >>>>>>>>>> without an Me disc. I have a Windows 95 disc from way back, >>>>>>>>>> will that really work?? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes. It's not documented at Microsoft.com, but a Windows 95 CD >>>>>>>>> will satisfy the "Proof of a Qualifying Product." You can >>>>>>>>> delete all the partitions and start over if you want. If you >>>>>>>>> boot from the XP CD and follow the prompts for an >>>>>>>>> Installation, just after you have to hit F8 to accept the >>>>>>>>> EULA, you will get the Delete/Create Partitions option at the >>>>>>>>> bottom when you select the drive to install XP onto. You can >>>>>>>>> delete everything there, then create a new partiton... it >>>>>>>>> will format it before continueing the installation. Any other >>>>>>>>> Partitioning and Formatting you want to do can be done while >>>>>>>>> running XP using its Disk Management. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Note: XP will not create a FAT32 Partition greater than 32GB. >>>>>>>>> It can use any size, it just won't create one. Decide ahead >>>>>>>>> if you want NTFS (recommended), I don't like to convert from >>>>>>>>> FAT32 later. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Windows 95 disc worked fine and booting for the XP upgrade >>>>>>>> disc began formatting for NTFS then the following blue screen >>>>>>>> came up: "A problem has been detected and windows has been shut >>>>>>>> down to prevent damage to your computer.PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED >>>>>>>> -AREA. >>>>>>>> If this is the first time you've seen this stop error screen >>>>>>>> restart your computer. If this is a new installation ask your >>>>>>>> hardware or software manufacturer for any windows updates you >>>>>>>> might need >>>>>>>> If problems continue disable or remove any newly installed >>>>>>>> hardware or software. Disable BIOS memory options such as >>>>>>>> caching or shadowing. >>>>>>>> If you need to use safe mode to remove or disable components, >>>>>>>> restart your computer, press F8 to select Advanced startup >>>>>>>> options and then select safe mode. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tech info: >>>>>>>> ***STOP: 0XO0000050 >>>>>>>> (OXF2120054, 0X00000000,0X00000000,0X000000000)" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thinking it could be the additional 100G HD I had installed a >>>>>>>> while back, I disconnected that and tried again with the same >>>>>>>> result, except that the Tech Inf change to >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (OXF2525494, 0X00000000,0X00000000,0X000000000) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am now well out of my depth with this and have no idea how to >>>>>>>> proceed. Pressing F8 doesn't offer Advance startup options and >>>>>>>> disabling anything to do with the BIOS sounds scary. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gave it one more go. This time it completed the formatting of >>>>>>> the 20G HD (the 100G one still unplugged) started copying >>>>>>> files, when 51% complete the blue screen returned. This time >>>>>>> the Tech Info reads "0XF000EEFB,OXOOOOOOOO, 0X80818B20, >>>>>>> 0X00000000) >>>>>>> Surely XP doesn't need the whole of a 20G HD does it? The 20G is >>>>>>> the master and the 100G the slave, would changing them around >>>>>>> help, if I could find out how to do it? >>>>>> >>>>>> There's a chance you'll have to update your motherboard BIOS. >>>>>> >>>>>> Remove all extra components except your HDD and Video Card... >>>>>> Sound Cards, etc. then install. The removed cards can be >>>>>> installed later. A fairly common cause of STOP 0x50 is an IRQ >>>>>> Conflict with the Sound Card and another device. (Even on-board >>>>>> sound device can conflict with something else. Sound Cards seem >>>>>> to only get along with USB sharing of IRQs.) >>>>>> >>>>>> XP needs 5~10GB of disk space (<5 when installed, but it will >>>>>> grow). >>>>>> >>>>>> Do you know your motherboard manufacturer? I know some Gateway >>>>>> machines used Intel motherboards... or just list the model number >>>>>> and I'll look around. >>>>>> >>>>> 933 PERFORMANCE SYSTEM UK >>>>> Processor INTEL PENTIUM III 933MHZ PROCESSOR >>>>> MEMORY 128MB 133MHZ SDRAM MEMORY (1 X 128MB) INCREASED >>>>> TO 2 X 256MB VIDEO CARD 32MB NVI
From: Lanky on 12 Sep 2006 18:28 On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 15:03:27 GMT, "relic" <mailbounce(a)relic211.cjb.net> wrote: >Lanky wrote: >> On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 15:16:22 -0700, "Julie" <nospam(a)nospam.here> >> wrote: >> >>> Lanky wrote: >>>> On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 19:13:17 GMT, "relic" >>>> <mailbounce(a)relic211.cjb.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Lanky wrote: >>>>>> On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 15:10:01 GMT, "relic" >>>>>> <mailbounce(a)relic211.cjb.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Lanky wrote: >>>>>>>> On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 14:56:56 +0100, Lanky >>>>>>>> <Lanky(a)behindbikeshed.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 22:33:14 GMT, "relic" >>>>>>>>> <mailbounce(a)relic211.cjb.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Lanky wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 20:44:37 GMT, "relic" >>>>>>>>>>> <mailbounce(a)relic211.cjb.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Lanky wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Trying to upgrade from Windows Me to XP Home Edition using >>>>>>>>>>>>> the MS upgrade pack. Gateway computer 512Ram 20G + 100G HD >>>>>>>>>>>>> should be fine for the upgrade. I don't have the disc for >>>>>>>>>>>>> WinMe it was preinstalled on the Gateway and I only have a >>>>>>>>>>>>> recovery disc so I can't do a new install of XP. >>>>>>>>>>>>> The upgrade loads up to the point of copying the >>>>>>>>>>>>> installation files 60 or 70% complete ready to install >>>>>>>>>>>>> then, then the screen goes black and a reboot starts. A >>>>>>>>>>>>> message shows giving the option to reboot from disc, if I >>>>>>>>>>>>> take that option it asks for the WinMe disc which I don't >>>>>>>>>>>>> have, not taking that option starts a HD scan then boots >>>>>>>>>>>>> WinMe which them runs normally. I've tried msconfig >>>>>>>>>>>>> selecting only *statemgr, same thing happens. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas before I phone MS Help which is sure to be >>>>>>>>>>>>> frustrating experience? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I can explain what to do step-by-step, but your ME will be >>>>>>>>>>>> gone completely doing it my way (XP should be a clean >>>>>>>>>>>> install when you're going from a Windows 9x base to the NT >>>>>>>>>>>> base). That would make it impossible for you to install it >>>>>>>>>>>> in the future using an upgrade XP CD. Do you have, or can >>>>>>>>>>>> you get a copy of a Windows 95/98/98SE/ME CD? (You wouldn't >>>>>>>>>>>> need the Key, just the CD.) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I have all my stuff backed up on my laptop running on XP so I >>>>>>>>>>> would prefer a clean install but didn't think I could do that >>>>>>>>>>> without an Me disc. I have a Windows 95 disc from way back, >>>>>>>>>>> will that really work?? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes. It's not documented at Microsoft.com, but a Windows 95 CD >>>>>>>>>> will satisfy the "Proof of a Qualifying Product." You can >>>>>>>>>> delete all the partitions and start over if you want. If you >>>>>>>>>> boot from the XP CD and follow the prompts for an >>>>>>>>>> Installation, just after you have to hit F8 to accept the >>>>>>>>>> EULA, you will get the Delete/Create Partitions option at the >>>>>>>>>> bottom when you select the drive to install XP onto. You can >>>>>>>>>> delete everything there, then create a new partiton... it >>>>>>>>>> will format it before continueing the installation. Any other >>>>>>>>>> Partitioning and Formatting you want to do can be done while >>>>>>>>>> running XP using its Disk Management. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Note: XP will not create a FAT32 Partition greater than 32GB. >>>>>>>>>> It can use any size, it just won't create one. Decide ahead >>>>>>>>>> if you want NTFS (recommended), I don't like to convert from >>>>>>>>>> FAT32 later. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Windows 95 disc worked fine and booting for the XP upgrade >>>>>>>>> disc began formatting for NTFS then the following blue screen >>>>>>>>> came up: "A problem has been detected and windows has been shut >>>>>>>>> down to prevent damage to your computer.PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED >>>>>>>>> -AREA. >>>>>>>>> If this is the first time you've seen this stop error screen >>>>>>>>> restart your computer. If this is a new installation ask your >>>>>>>>> hardware or software manufacturer for any windows updates you >>>>>>>>> might need >>>>>>>>> If problems continue disable or remove any newly installed >>>>>>>>> hardware or software. Disable BIOS memory options such as >>>>>>>>> caching or shadowing. >>>>>>>>> If you need to use safe mode to remove or disable components, >>>>>>>>> restart your computer, press F8 to select Advanced startup >>>>>>>>> options and then select safe mode. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tech info: >>>>>>>>> ***STOP: 0XO0000050 >>>>>>>>> (OXF2120054, 0X00000000,0X00000000,0X000000000)" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thinking it could be the additional 100G HD I had installed a >>>>>>>>> while back, I disconnected that and tried again with the same >>>>>>>>> result, except that the Tech Inf change to >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (OXF2525494, 0X00000000,0X00000000,0X000000000) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am now well out of my depth with this and have no idea how to >>>>>>>>> proceed. Pressing F8 doesn't offer Advance startup options and >>>>>>>>> disabling anything to do with the BIOS sounds scary. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Gave it one more go. This time it completed the formatting of >>>>>>>> the 20G HD (the 100G one still unplugged) started copying >>>>>>>> files, when 51% complete the blue screen returned. This time >>>>>>>> the Tech Info reads "0XF000EEFB,OXOOOOOOOO, 0X80818B20, >>>>>>>> 0X00000000) >>>>>>>> Surely XP doesn't need the whole of a 20G HD does it? The 20G is >>>>>>>> the master and the 100G the slave, would changing them around >>>>>>>> help, if I could find out how to do it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There's a chance you'll have to update your motherboard BIOS. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Remove all extra components except your HDD and Video Card... >>>>>>> Sound Cards, etc. then install. The removed cards can be >>>>>>> installed later. A fairly common cause of STOP 0x50 is an IRQ >>>>>>> Conflict with the Sound Card and another device. (Even on-board >>>>>>> sound device can conflict with something else. Sound Cards seem >>>>>>> to only get along with USB sharing of IRQs.) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> XP needs 5~10GB of disk space (<5 when installed, but it will >>>>>>> grow). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Do you know your motherboard manufacturer? I know some Gateway >>>>>>> machines used Intel motherboards... or just list the model number >>>>>>> and I'll look around. >>>>>>> >>>>>>
From: relic on 12 Sep 2006 18:41 Lanky wrote: > On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 15:03:27 GMT, "relic" >> >> Read this section over: >> "Can't Install Windows XP" >> http://kadaitcha.cx/cannot_install.html > > Thank you, I found the answer to the problem there. The RAM memory > modules were causing the trouble. Fortunately I kept the ordinal 128Mb > module when I upgraded to 2 X 256Mb modules and putting things back to > what they were enabled XP to load without further bother. > If I can get XP to accept the up graded memory and the additional 100G > HDD I'll have a pretty good machine. A bit slow maybe, but at 75 years > old I'm not so fast myself these days. Your specs are adequate, your machine should perform prettty well. While 512MB is kinda a minimum amount of memory for XP, 384MB will do the job. > > Thanks to all who helped me, especially "relic" Any time.
From: simon templar on 14 Sep 2006 12:44
Some winme prog don't need what's in the registry to function -- you can simply cut and paste the install directory and data files to winxp computer. You may need to use compatibility settings. FYI Laplink may work for you. Simply remove harddrive from old computer, install as slave. Then transfer needed folders and files. Laplink works for the following:: http://www.laplink.com/pcmover/ "Let PCmover transfer your entire PC: Programs and applications Files and Folders Settings ? Microsoft Office ? Adobe Photoshop ? PC Games ? Messenger Programs ? And many more ? Documents ? Spreadsheets ? Photos ? Videos ? Music ? Desktop backgrounds ? Icons/Shortcuts ? Internet Explorer Settings ? Favorites/Bookmarks ? More" |