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From: Kenneth A. Larsen on 31 Jul 2010 19:03

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>>>> "mp" <nospam(a)thanks.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>
>>>>> "Al Dunbar" <alandrub(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uattQ%23qLLHA.6128(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "mp" <nospam(a)Thanks.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:i2p0sh$hq0$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "KMS" <mohan.kammili(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:875f76de-214a-48ca-812e-d2cb2969f2cf(a)s9g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>> On Jul 28, 12:27 am, "Al Dunbar" <aland...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> "mp" <nos...(a)Thanks.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> news:i2lqec$eir$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > i've heard of having a login script run to compare server copy to
>>>>>>>> > local
>>>>>>>> > copy dates(of a file)
>>>>>>>> > i've written a vbs file i thnk is more or less correct :-) how do
>>>>>>>> > i get
>>>>>>>> > that to run on login?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are a couple of ways of doing that (see below), but the
>>>>>>>> choice depends
>>>>>>>> on a number of things you have not told us about your environment:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - put a shortcut to your script in the all users startup folder
>>>>>>>> - create a logon script local to the computer(s)
>>>>>>>> - place it in the netlogon share on a domain controller, and update
>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>> accounts to reference it
>>>>>>>> - define a logon script using group policy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> /Al
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I personally recommend going with login script through Group policy
>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>> possible since that gives more control in many occasions. However it
>>>>>>> depends on ur exact requirement. Also lets know more about the
>>>>>>> requirement so that can assess modifications to ur script to act as
>>>>>>> login script
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Al and KMS,
>>>>>>> sadly i'm not an IT guy so know little about Groups/networking etc.
>>>>>>> I do programming in autocad and vb6 and some dotnet but have always
>>>>>>> been weak in general windows knowlege.
>>>>>>> I think we're in workgroups. I've been told the server is sql
>>>>>>> server.
>>>>>>> Most of the boxes are xp, one is win7.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could be a workgroup or a domain. Can you logon to two different XP
>>>>>> computers using the same account and password? if you change your
>>>>>> password while logged on at one XP system, does this new password get
>>>>>> you in on the other? If you answer Yes to both questions, you are
>>>>>> likely in a domain environment. If No, more likely a workgroup
>>>>>> environment, but it could still be.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To find out for sure, right-click on the "my computer" icon, select
>>>>>> "properties", then click on the "Computer Name" tab.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> domain ==> allows for all of my suggestions
>>>>>> workgroup ==> only the first two would be possible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I may end up putting this in the autocad environment so when acad
>>>>>>> starts up the filecomparison/copy is done. but for my knowlege i'd
>>>>>>> like to know the best way to do it at windows logon as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If this would work, and if the file operations are only required for
>>>>>> autocad use, this might be the best approach. It might mean running
>>>>>> the scripts more often, which could be a nuisance if they make you
>>>>>> wait. But if the server files might be updated between autocad
>>>>>> sessions, running at logon might not get you the most up to date
>>>>>> information.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regardless, if the files being compared are "in use" at the time,
>>>>>> this might render the result of the comparisons invalid. If the files
>>>>>> are "used" by Autocad, then it seems likely this would be a problem,
>>>>>> and you'd have to run them before starting autocad. Worse yet, if you
>>>>>> adapt your script to actually update files that are out of date, this
>>>>>> will further require the appropriate level of permissions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In terms of "the best way to do something at windows logon", I agree
>>>>>> with KMS that the group policy approach is the "best of breed" in
>>>>>> many ways. But, of course, this requires a domain environment. But
>>>>>> even if you have such an environment and are not already running
>>>>>> logon scripts it might just be too much work with too much risk
>>>>>> associated to develop Group Policy just to support a single
>>>>>> application and/or user when a simpler approach works OK.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> can you explain how to "login script through Group policy "
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you do not have the IT knowledge to manage Group Policy, create
>>>>>> logon scripts on the domain controller, configure accounts to run
>>>>>> logon scripts, then it is likely that you do not have the privileges
>>>>>> required to do so. Not only that, but it would be highly unfortunate
>>>>>> if you did.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> re: al's option 1 above (put in all users startup) -
>>>>>>> i thought that meant a folder under C:\Documents and Settings\All
>>>>>>> Users called startup but i don't see one on this laptop? Do I just
>>>>>>> create a folder named Startup under AllUsers and whatever shortcuts
>>>>>>> are in there will run?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Assuming a standard XP installation, the shortcuts could go here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
>>>>>>
>>>>>> to affect all users. This would require administrator privileges on
>>>>>> the workstation. To have them run only for you, you could put them
>>>>>> here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> C:\Documents and Settings\mark\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks for your help and sorry for my ignorance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're welcome, and no need to apologize; we are all ignorant of
>>>>>> things we haven't learned yet. It would have been a problem had you
>>>>>> not recognized and admitted your own lack of knowledge.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As an aside, and assuming that the file comparison needs to be done
>>>>>> before each autocad session, you could modify your script to start
>>>>>> autocad after doing the file comparisons. You would then just have to
>>>>>> remember to start autocad by running that script instead of running
>>>>>> it directly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /Al
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for all your info. Looks like it is a domain, and further that
>>>>> I have no interest in getting into that level of things (due to my
>>>>> lack of knowlege). The acad approach will be ideal on further
>>>>> consideration, but I appreciate the education.
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Mark,
>>>> It's cool that you are copying local files. But i'm currius. Did you
>>>> type those on MS-DOS-Prompt? And by the way, you are welcome for my
>>>> info.
>>>>
>>>> From,
>>>> Kenny
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

From: Kenneth A. Larsen on 1 Aug 2010 08:04

"Kenneth A. Larsen" <kuhlpc#2(a)optimum.net> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "Kenneth A. Larsen" <LarsenK(a)verizon.net> wrote in message
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>>>> "Kenneth A. Larsen" <kuhlpc#2(a)optimum.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:evsOwj3LLHA.3496(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>> "mp" <nospam(a)thanks.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:i2sq3h$94i$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Al Dunbar" <alandrub(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:uattQ%23qLLHA.6128(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "mp" <nospam(a)Thanks.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:i2p0sh$hq0$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "KMS" <mohan.kammili(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:875f76de-214a-48ca-812e-d2cb2969f2cf(a)s9g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>> On Jul 28, 12:27 am, "Al Dunbar" <aland...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "mp" <nos...(a)Thanks.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> news:i2lqec$eir$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > i've heard of having a login script run to compare server copy
>>>>>>>>> > to local
>>>>>>>>> > copy dates(of a file)
>>>>>>>>> > i've written a vbs file i thnk is more or less correct :-) how
>>>>>>>>> > do i get
>>>>>>>>> > that to run on login?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There are a couple of ways of doing that (see below), but the
>>>>>>>>> choice depends
>>>>>>>>> on a number of things you have not told us about your environment:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - put a shortcut to your script in the all users startup folder
>>>>>>>>> - create a logon script local to the computer(s)
>>>>>>>>> - place it in the netlogon share on a domain controller, and
>>>>>>>>> update all
>>>>>>>>> accounts to reference it
>>>>>>>>> - define a logon script using group policy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> /Al
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I personally recommend going with login script through Group policy
>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>> possible since that gives more control in many occasions. However
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> depends on ur exact requirement. Also lets know more about the
>>>>>>>> requirement so that can assess modifications to ur script to act as
>>>>>>>> login script
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Al and KMS,
>>>>>>>> sadly i'm not an IT guy so know little about Groups/networking etc.
>>>>>>>> I do programming in autocad and vb6 and some dotnet but have always
>>>>>>>> been weak in general windows knowlege.
>>>>>>>> I think we're in workgroups. I've been told the server is sql
>>>>>>>> server.
>>>>>>>> Most of the boxes are xp, one is win7.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Could be a workgroup or a domain. Can you logon to two different XP
>>>>>>> computers using the same account and password? if you change your
>>>>>>> password while logged on at one XP system, does this new password
>>>>>>> get you in on the other? If you answer Yes to both questions, you
>>>>>>> are likely in a domain environment. If No, more likely a workgroup
>>>>>>> environment, but it could still be.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To find out for sure, right-click on the "my computer" icon, select
>>>>>>> "properties", then click on the "Computer Name" tab.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> domain ==> allows for all of my suggestions
>>>>>>> workgroup ==> only the first two would be possible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I may end up putting this in the autocad environment so when acad
>>>>>>>> starts up the filecomparison/copy is done. but for my knowlege i'd
>>>>>>>> like to know the best way to do it at windows logon as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If this would work, and if the file operations are only required for
>>>>>>> autocad use, this might be the best approach. It might mean running
>>>>>>> the scripts more often, which could be a nuisance if they make you
>>>>>>> wait. But if the server files might be updated between autocad
>>>>>>> sessions, running at logon might not get you the most up to date
>>>>>>> information.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regardless, if the files being compared are "in use" at the time,
>>>>>>> this might render the result of the comparisons invalid. If the
>>>>>>> files are "used" by Autocad, then it seems likely this would be a
>>>>>>> problem, and you'd have to run them before starting autocad. Worse
>>>>>>> yet, if you adapt your script to actually update files that are out
>>>>>>> of date, this will further require the appropriate level of
>>>>>>> permissions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In terms of "the best way to do something at windows logon", I agree
>>>>>>> with KMS that the group policy approach is the "best of breed" in
>>>>>>> many ways. But, of course, this requires a domain environment. But
>>>>>>> even if you have such an environment and are not already running
>>>>>>> logon scripts it might just be too much work with too much risk
>>>>>>> associated to develop Group Policy just to support a single
>>>>>>> application and/or user when a simpler approach works OK.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> can you explain how to "login script through Group policy "
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you do not have the IT knowledge to manage Group Policy, create
>>>>>>> logon scripts on the domain controller, configure accounts to run
>>>>>>> logon scripts, then it is likely that you do not have the privileges
>>>>>>> required to do so. Not only that, but it would be highly unfortunate
>>>>>>> if you did.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> re: al's option 1 above (put in all users startup) -
>>>>>>>> i thought that meant a folder under C:\Documents and Settings\All
>>>>>>>> Users called startup but i don't see one on this laptop? Do I just
>>>>>>>> create a folder named Startup under AllUsers and whatever shortcuts
>>>>>>>> are in there will run?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Assuming a standard XP installation, the shortcuts could go here:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to affect all users. This would require administrator privileges on
>>>>>>> the workstation. To have them run only for you, you could put them
>>>>>>> here:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> C:\Documents and Settings\mark\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thanks for your help and sorry for my ignorance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're welcome, and no need to apologize; we are all ignorant of
>>>>>>> things we haven't learned yet. It would have been a problem had you
>>>>>>> not recognized and admitted your own lack of knowledge.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As an aside, and assuming that the file comparison needs to be done
>>>>>>> before each autocad session, you could modify your script to start
>>>>>>> autocad after doing the file comparisons. You would then just have
>>>>>>> to remember to start autocad by running that script instead of
>>>>>>> running it directly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> /Al
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for all your info. Looks like it is a domain, and further that
>>>>>> I have no interest in getting into that level of things (due to my
>>>>>> lack of knowlege). The acad approach will be ideal on further
>>>>>> consideration, but I appreciate the education.
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> mark
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Mark,
>>>>> It's cool that you are copying local files. But i'm currius. Did you
>>>>> type those on MS-DOS-Prompt? And by the way, you are welcome for my
>>>>> info.
>>>>>
>>>>> From,
>>>>> Kenny
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

From: Kenneth A. Larsen on 1 Aug 2010 08:14

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>>>
>>> "Kenneth A. Larsen" <LarsenK(a)verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:exOvtl3LLHA.3732(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> "Kenneth A. Larsen" <kuhlpc#2(a)optimum.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:evsOwj3LLHA.3496(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>> "mp" <nospam(a)thanks.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:i2sq3h$94i$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Al Dunbar" <alandrub(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:uattQ%23qLLHA.6128(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "mp" <nospam(a)Thanks.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:i2p0sh$hq0$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "KMS" <mohan.kammili(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:875f76de-214a-48ca-812e-d2cb2969f2cf(a)s9g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>> On Jul 28, 12:27 am, "Al Dunbar" <aland...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "mp" <nos...(a)Thanks.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> news:i2lqec$eir$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > i've heard of having a login script run to compare server copy
>>>>>>>>> > to local
>>>>>>>>> > copy dates(of a file)
>>>>>>>>> > i've written a vbs file i thnk is more or less correct :-) how
>>>>>>>>> > do i get
>>>>>>>>> > that to run on login?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There are a couple of ways of doing that (see below), but the
>>>>>>>>> choice depends
>>>>>>>>> on a number of things you have not told us about your environment:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - put a shortcut to your script in the all users startup folder
>>>>>>>>> - create a logon script local to the computer(s)
>>>>>>>>> - place it in the netlogon share on a domain controller, and
>>>>>>>>> update all
>>>>>>>>> accounts to reference it
>>>>>>>>> - define a logon script using group policy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> /Al
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I personally recommend going with login script through Group policy
>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>> possible since that gives more control in many occasions. However
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> depends on ur exact requirement. Also lets know more about the
>>>>>>>> requirement so that can assess modifications to ur script to act as
>>>>>>>> login script
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Al and KMS,
>>>>>>>> sadly i'm not an IT guy so know little about Groups/networking etc.
>>>>>>>> I do programming in autocad and vb6 and some dotnet but have always
>>>>>>>> been weak in general windows knowlege.
>>>>>>>> I think we're in workgroups. I've been told the server is sql
>>>>>>>> server.
>>>>>>>> Most of the boxes are xp, one is win7.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Could be a workgroup or a domain. Can you logon to two different XP
>>>>>>> computers using the same account and password? if you change your
>>>>>>> password while logged on at one XP system, does this new password
>>>>>>> get you in on the other? If you answer Yes to both questions, you
>>>>>>> are likely in a domain environment. If No, more likely a workgroup
>>>>>>> environment, but it could still be.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To find out for sure, right-click on the "my computer" icon, select
>>>>>>> "properties", then click on the "Computer Name" tab.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> domain ==> allows for all of my suggestions
>>>>>>> workgroup ==> only the first two would be possible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I may end up putting this in the autocad environment so when acad
>>>>>>>> starts up the filecomparison/copy is done. but for my knowlege i'd
>>>>>>>> like to know the best way to do it at windows logon as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If this would work, and if the file operations are only required for
>>>>>>> autocad use, this might be the best approach. It might mean running
>>>>>>> the scripts more often, which could be a nuisance if they make you
>>>>>>> wait. But if the server files might be updated between autocad
>>>>>>> sessions, running at logon might not get you the most up to date
>>>>>>> information.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regardless, if the files being compared are "in use" at the time,
>>>>>>> this might render the result of the comparisons invalid. If the
>>>>>>> files are "used" by Autocad, then it seems likely this would be a
>>>>>>> problem, and you'd have to run them before starting autocad. Worse
>>>>>>> yet, if you adapt your script to actually update files that are out
>>>>>>> of date, this will further require the appropriate level of
>>>>>>> permissions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In terms of "the best way to do something at windows logon", I agree
>>>>>>> with KMS that the group policy approach is the "best of breed" in
>>>>>>> many ways. But, of course, this requires a domain environment. But
>>>>>>> even if you have such an environment and are not already running
>>>>>>> logon scripts it might just be too much work with too much risk
>>>>>>> associated to develop Group Policy just to support a single
>>>>>>> application and/or user when a simpler approach works OK.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> can you explain how to "login script through Group policy "
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you do not have the IT knowledge to manage Group Policy, create
>>>>>>> logon scripts on the domain controller, configure accounts to run
>>>>>>> logon scripts, then it is likely that you do not have the privileges
>>>>>>> required to do so. Not only that, but it would be highly unfortunate
>>>>>>> if you did.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> re: al's option 1 above (put in all users startup) -
>>>>>>>> i thought that meant a folder under C:\Documents and Settings\All
>>>>>>>> Users called startup but i don't see one on this laptop? Do I just
>>>>>>>> create a folder named Startup under AllUsers and whatever shortcuts
>>>>>>>> are in there will run?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Assuming a standard XP installation, the shortcuts could go here:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to affect all users. This would require administrator privileges on
>>>>>>> the workstation. To have them run only for you, you could put them
>>>>>>> here:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> C:\Documents and Settings\mark\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thanks for your help and sorry for my ignorance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're welcome, and no need to apologize; we are all ignorant of
>>>>>>> things we haven't learned yet. It would have been a problem had you
>>>>>>> not recognized and admitted your own lack of knowledge.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As an aside, and assuming that the file comparison needs to be done
>>>>>>> before each autocad session, you could modify your script to start
>>>>>>> autocad after doing the file comparisons. You would then just have
>>>>>>> to remember to start autocad by running that script instead of
>>>>>>> running it directly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> /Al
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for all your info. Looks like it is a domain, and further that
>>>>>> I have no interest in getting into that level of things (due to my
>>>>>> lack of knowlege). The acad approach will be ideal on further
>>>>>> consideration, but I appreciate the education.
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> mark
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Mark,
>>>>> It's cool that you are copying local files. But i'm currius. Did you
>>>>> type those on MS-DOS-Prompt? And by the way, you are welcome for my
>>>>> info.
>>>>>
>>>>> From,
>>>>> Kenny
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

From: Kenneth A. Larsen on 1 Aug 2010 08:14

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>>>>
>>>> "Kenneth A. Larsen" <LarsenK(a)verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:exOvtl3LLHA.3732(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Kenneth A. Larsen" <kuhlpc#2(a)optimum.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:evsOwj3LLHA.3496(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "mp" <nospam(a)thanks.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:i2sq3h$94i$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Al Dunbar" <alandrub(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:uattQ%23qLLHA.6128(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "mp" <nospam(a)Thanks.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:i2p0sh$hq0$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "KMS" <mohan.kammili(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:875f76de-214a-48ca-812e-d2cb2969f2cf(a)s9g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 28, 12:27 am, "Al Dunbar" <aland...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "mp" <nos...(a)Thanks.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> news:i2lqec$eir$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > i've heard of having a login script run to compare server copy
>>>>>>>>>> > to local
>>>>>>>>>> > copy dates(of a file)
>>>>>>>>>> > i've written a vbs file i thnk is more or less correct :-) how
>>>>>>>>>> > do i get
>>>>>>>>>> > that to run on login?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There are a couple of ways of doing that (see below), but the
>>>>>>>>>> choice depends
>>>>>>>>>> on a number of things you have not told us about your
>>>>>>>>>> environment:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - put a shortcut to your script in the all users startup folder
>>>>>>>>>> - create a logon script local to the computer(s)
>>>>>>>>>> - place it in the netlogon share on a domain controller, and
>>>>>>>>>> update all
>>>>>>>>>> accounts to reference it
>>>>>>>>>> - define a logon script using group policy.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> /Al
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I personally recommend going with login script through Group
>>>>>>>>> policy if
>>>>>>>>> possible since that gives more control in many occasions. However
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> depends on ur exact requirement. Also lets know more about the
>>>>>>>>> requirement so that can assess modifications to ur script to act
>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>> login script
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Al and KMS,
>>>>>>>>> sadly i'm not an IT guy so know little about Groups/networking
>>>>>>>>> etc. I do programming in autocad and vb6 and some dotnet but have
>>>>>>>>> always been weak in general windows knowlege.
>>>>>>>>> I think we're in workgroups. I've been told the server is sql
>>>>>>>>> server.
>>>>>>>>> Most of the boxes are xp, one is win7.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Could be a workgroup or a domain. Can you logon to two different XP
>>>>>>>> computers using the same account and password? if you change your
>>>>>>>> password while logged on at one XP system, does this new password
>>>>>>>> get you in on the other? If you answer Yes to both questions, you
>>>>>>>> are likely in a domain environment. If No, more likely a workgroup
>>>>>>>> environment, but it could still be.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To find out for sure, right-click on the "my computer" icon, select
>>>>>>>> "properties", then click on the "Computer Name" tab.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> domain ==> allows for all of my suggestions
>>>>>>>> workgroup ==> only the first two would be possible.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I may end up putting this in the autocad environment so when acad
>>>>>>>>> starts up the filecomparison/copy is done. but for my knowlege
>>>>>>>>> i'd like to know the best way to do it at windows logon as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If this would work, and if the file operations are only required
>>>>>>>> for autocad use, this might be the best approach. It might mean
>>>>>>>> running the scripts more often, which could be a nuisance if they
>>>>>>>> make you wait. But if the server files might be updated between
>>>>>>>> autocad sessions, running at logon might not get you the most up to
>>>>>>>> date information.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regardless, if the files being compared are "in use" at the time,
>>>>>>>> this might render the result of the comparisons invalid. If the
>>>>>>>> files are "used" by Autocad, then it seems likely this would be a
>>>>>>>> problem, and you'd have to run them before starting autocad. Worse
>>>>>>>> yet, if you adapt your script to actually update files that are out
>>>>>>>> of date, this will further require the appropriate level of
>>>>>>>> permissions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In terms of "the best way to do something at windows logon", I
>>>>>>>> agree with KMS that the group policy approach is the "best of
>>>>>>>> breed" in many ways. But, of course, this requires a domain
>>>>>>>> environment. But even if you have such an environment and are not
>>>>>>>> already running logon scripts it might just be too much work with
>>>>>>>> too much risk associated to develop Group Policy just to support a
>>>>>>>> single application and/or user when a simpler approach works OK.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> can you explain how to "login script through Group policy "
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you do not have the IT knowledge to manage Group Policy, create
>>>>>>>> logon scripts on the domain controller, configure accounts to run
>>>>>>>> logon scripts, then it is likely that you do not have the
>>>>>>>> privileges required to do so. Not only that, but it would be highly
>>>>>>>> unfortunate if you did.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> re: al's option 1 above (put in all users startup) -
>>>>>>>>> i thought that meant a folder under C:\Documents and Settings\All
>>>>>>>>> Users called startup but i don't see one on this laptop? Do I
>>>>>>>>> just create a folder named Startup under AllUsers and whatever
>>>>>>>>> shortcuts are in there will run?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Assuming a standard XP installation, the shortcuts could go here:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to affect all users. This would require administrator privileges on
>>>>>>>> the workstation. To have them run only for you, you could put them
>>>>>>>> here:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> C:\Documents and Settings\mark\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thanks for your help and sorry for my ignorance.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You're welcome, and no need to apologize; we are all ignorant of
>>>>>>>> things we haven't learned yet. It would have been a problem had you
>>>>>>>> not recognized and admitted your own lack of knowledge.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As an aside, and assuming that the file comparison needs to be done
>>>>>>>> before each autocad session, you could modify your script to start
>>>>>>>> autocad after doing the file comparisons. You would then just have
>>>>>>>> to remember to start autocad by running that script instead of
>>>>>>>> running it directly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> /Al
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for all your info. Looks like it is a domain, and further
>>>>>>> that I have no interest in getting into that level of things (due to
>>>>>>> my lack of knowlege). The acad approach will be ideal on further
>>>>>>> consideration, but I appreciate the education.
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Mark,
>>>>>> It's cool that you are copying local files. But i'm currius. Did you
>>>>>> type those on MS-DOS-Prompt? And by the way, you are welcome for my
>>>>>> info.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From,
>>>>>> Kenny
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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