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From: Grant on 7 Jul 2010 04:40 On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 01:47:35 +0100, Denis McMahon <denis.m.f.mcmahon(a)googlemail.co.uk> wrote: >On 05/07/10 18:05, jny0 wrote: >> On Jul 5, 4:18 pm, Denis McMahon <denis.m.f.mcma...(a)googlemail.co.uk> >> wrote: >>> On 05/07/10 15:55, jny0 wrote: >>> >>>> When I then try to login as root (through a terminal), I >>>> keep being told that there's authentication failure. I know the >>>> password is correct, and have gone though this process many time now. >>>> Any ideas? >>> >>> Could be that the root account is disabled for logins. >>> >>> Try using "su" from a normal user terminal instead. > >> That got it. You're a star. > >I think you can enable the root account for logins, but it seems most >linuxes are by default set up so that you have to use the superuser (or >switch user) command (su) to log in as root. Most Linux distros care about security, disallowing direct root login at least makes an attacker go through two password searches. A decent system would kick them out before the first user login succeeded. For machines only accessible from .localnet, I'll allow root login for convenience. Machines accessible from the Internet don't allow username/password logins here. And the login port is usually closed. Grant.
From: jny0 on 7 Jul 2010 04:51 Using su is all well and good when I'm using terminal programs (which I mostly do), but I've just started trying to use eclipse, which I (so far) access from the GUI. At this point I'm still just a user, so don't have permissions to build the project. How can I get root permissions on the GUI?
From: Nico Kadel-Garcia on 7 Jul 2010 07:26 On Jul 6, 8:47 pm, Denis McMahon <denis.m.f.mcma...(a)googlemail.co.uk> wrote: > On 05/07/10 18:05, jny0 wrote: > > > On Jul 5, 4:18 pm, Denis McMahon <denis.m.f.mcma...(a)googlemail.co.uk> > > wrote: > >> On 05/07/10 15:55, jny0 wrote: > > >>> When I then try to login as root (through a terminal), I > >>> keep being told that there's authentication failure. I know the > >>> password is correct, and have gone though this process many time now. > >>> Any ideas? > > >> Could be that the root account is disabled for logins. > > >> Try using "su" from a normal user terminal instead. > > That got it. You're a star. > > I think you can enable the root account for logins, but it seems most > linuxes are by default set up so that you have to use the superuser (or > switch user) command (su) to log in as root. > > Google should point you in the right direction. > > Rgds > > Denis McMahon This is also often an SSH setting in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. PermitRootLogins no There are good security and usage tracking reasons to do this, especially in an environment with multiple root level administrators.
From: Nico Kadel-Garcia on 7 Jul 2010 07:29 On Jul 7, 4:51 am, jny0 <j...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Using su is all well and good when I'm using terminal programs (which > I mostly do), but I've just started trying to use eclipse, which I (so > far) access from the GUI. At this point I'm still just a user, so > don't have permissions to build the project. How can I get root > permissions on the GUI? Type 'su eclipse', or something like it. But if you don't have permissions to build the project, something else is profoundly wrong in your normal setups. Such software should never be checked out and compiled directly as root, lest errors in the build or install procedures overwrite system components accidentally in the development stage. I've seen way, way, way too many badly written build procedures explode systems when run as root, especially when they mishandle "rm" stile commands.
From: John Hasler on 7 Jul 2010 07:52
jny0 writes: > ...but I've just started trying to use eclipse, which I (so far) > access from the GUI. At this point I'm still just a user, so don't > have permissions to build the project. How can I get root permissions > on the GUI? If you need to be root to build the project something is seriously wrong. -- John Hasler jhasler(a)newsguy.com Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI USA |