Apple II Debugger
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From: johnzulu[at]yahoo.com on 29 Jul 2006 13:46 Thanks Randy, John PS: boy it is late. need sleep.zzzzzzzzzz On 29 Jul 2006 10:19:41 -0700, rhyde(a)cs.ucr.edu wrote: > >johnzulu wrote: >> Where can I get the LISA program? Any clue. Sounds a good way to learn >> 68000 assembly. >> >> John > > >Oh, I forgot in my previous post, >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_assembler >http://modena.intergate.ca/personal/gslj/iiefreeware.html#PROG >http://axis.llx.com/~nparker/a2/ >http://aceemploymentservices.net/lisa.htm >http://aceemploymentservices.net/lisa_manual__download_page.htm >http://www.dadgum.com/halcyon/BOOK/GOODMAN.HTM >http://www.a2central.com/article.php?story=20060111050732518 > > >Some of these links contain the download for the LISA assembler and the >documentation for it. >Cheers, >Randy Hyde
From: rhyde on 29 Jul 2006 15:14 Betov wrote: > > It seems that you have found out a couple of new minions > lately, who agrea with giving you a hand at your well > known propaganda system, Master Pdf. > > Congratulations. Whatever. > Well... too bad that we will never see any report about > what it really was, ??? What LISA was has been reported around here on several occasions. And if you'd actually looked at the links rather than shooting off at the mouth in ignorance (as usual), you'd find the the complete On-Line Systems documentation is available at one of those links. > and about the number of bugs, making > this toy unusable, Well, regardless of how many bugs it may or may not have had, a large number of commercial applications (including a lot of games) for the Apple II were written with the LISA assembler. > according to what i have read here and > there. Really? Links please. > Of course, also, feel free to forget to talk about > what you did NOT write, in this dead toy, as well as the > reasons why it was abandonned as soon as released. It was first released in 1979 by Programma International. Sierra On-Line took it over when Programma went out of business (and before you start blaming LISA for Programma's demise, just keep in mind that LISA was a *tiny* part of Programma's business). When Sierra dropped it sometime around 1983, I published and sold it myself for a couple of years (actually made a living selling LISA and other products and services). Then, shortly after the Apple II GS came out, I turned it over to Brian Fitzgerald at HAL Labs who continued to support it and extend it for another couple of years. Eventually, of course, the Apple II family was no longer an economically viable platform for software development, and LISA was released into the public domain by HAL Labs. It's wishful thinking on your part to conjure up this "abandoned as soon as it was released" remark, but the facts, as usual, are 180 degrees out of phase with your twisted view of reality. The good news is that you can look forward to HLA being abandoned when the PC platform is no longer encomically viable to support software development tools (i.e., when programmers move on to a different platform and there is no longer a need for an x86 assembler). Cheers, Randy Hyde
From: rhyde on 29 Jul 2006 15:16 Evenbit wrote: > johnzulu wrote: > > Where can I get the LISA program? Any clue. Sounds a good way to learn > > 68000 assembly. > > > > John > > No.. LISA is for the 6502 line of CPUs, not the 68000 line. I was > looking for a "*.dsk" file myself so I could try it in Appler or > AppleWin, but the link on this page: > http://modena.intergate.ca/personal/gslj/iiefreeware.html#PROG > seems to be broken. > > Nathan. The link on this page: http://axis.llx.com/~nparker/a2/ seem to be good, though it's an shk file (Apple II compression). Not having really touched my Apple IIGS in many years, I couldn't tell you how to decompress the file. Cheers, Randy Hyde
From: Betov on 29 Jul 2006 15:30 rhyde(a)cs.ucr.edu crivait news:1154200440.547610.83100 @m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com: > [...] I did not ask you for more and more insane propaganda, clown. Betov. < http://rosasm.org >
From: Chris Saunders on 29 Jul 2006 16:55
Just to let you know. I tried the link http://modena.intergate.ca/personal/gslj/iiefreeware.html#PROG and got to a page titled "Free Software for the Apple II". Regards Chris Saunders <rhyde(a)cs.ucr.edu> wrote in message news:1154200588.860015.96570(a)m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > Evenbit wrote: >> johnzulu wrote: >> > Where can I get the LISA program? Any clue. Sounds a good way to learn >> > 68000 assembly. >> > >> > John >> >> No.. LISA is for the 6502 line of CPUs, not the 68000 line. I was >> looking for a "*.dsk" file myself so I could try it in Appler or >> AppleWin, but the link on this page: >> http://modena.intergate.ca/personal/gslj/iiefreeware.html#PROG >> seems to be broken. >> >> Nathan. > > The link on this page: > http://axis.llx.com/~nparker/a2/ > seem to be good, though it's an shk file (Apple II compression). Not > having really touched my Apple IIGS in many years, I couldn't tell you > how to decompress the file. > Cheers, > Randy Hyde > |