From: Mr. Strat on
In article <kn9h26lunq55sq8mqic4lcffjb1lhbq4vk(a)4ax.com>, rwalker
<rwalker(a)despammed.com> wrote:

> I was pretty annoyed when my SPSS for Windows 7.0, which cost me
> $1500, wouldn't run under Windows Vista and Windows 7. Of course, I'm
> sure SPSS was pleased, because it meant they got to gouge me again.

Of all the software we support on campus, SPSS has got to be the worst.
And they're such a delightful company to deal with.
From: whisky-dave on

"J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet(a)cox.net> wrote in message
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> On 6/28/2010 8:26 AM, whisky-dave wrote:
>> "David J Taylor"<david-taylor(a)blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:i06njr$14g$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>> "C J Campbell"<christophercampbellremovethis(a)hotmail.com> wrote in
>>> message
>>> news:201006261646368930-christophercampbellremovethis(a)hotmailcom...
>>> []
>>>> Windows is a "mature" (read, "obsolete") product that has been
>>>> surpassed
>>>> in every way by practically every other OS out there. Microsoft needs
>>>> to
>>>> scrap Windows and start from the ground up.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Waddling Eagle
>>>> World Famous Flight Instructor
>>>
>>> What? And make everyone buy their 3rd-party software again? No thanks!
>>> One of Windows strengths has been its backwards compatibility over the
>>> last 25 years.
>>
>> Is it ?, I;m sure we've had lots of problems I remember the compatibility
>> problems between different versions of Word, and PowerPoint especially.
>> Then there's problems with IE8 that we haven't upgraded from IE7.
>
> What does Word have to do with Windows? Word 97 works fine on Windows 7
> you know.
I don't know anyone that uses a computer with only the operating system and
nothing else, the majority of peolpe even Mac users know of Word.
It is the most used WP isn;t it ?


>
> Vista 64 bit and Windows 7 do break a few very, very old applications,
That is the problem when you just want the computer to work.
The number of peole that I've heard iof that have brought a new computer
mainly windows PC of teh low end type tend to expect not to have to by new
apps when they 'upgrade' .

> and some games and whatnot that attempt to circumvent the OS for hardware
> access break, but the main problem that is encountered with older software
> is that Vista and Windows 7 have the security locked down by default, so
> you have to tweak the security settings and possibly provide user access
> to specific files or folders to get them to work--the developers have
> known this was coming for at least 15 years and have chosen to dump
> everything into a system folder anyway.

Doesn't help the average computer user who just wants to write a few
letters, print the odd few pictures that they have done with their 10 year
old system.



From: whisky-dave on

"David J Taylor" <david-taylor(a)blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
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> "whisky-dave" <whisky-dave(a)final.front.ear> wrote in message
> news:i0a4e2$6lj$1(a)qmul...
>>
>> "David J Taylor" <david-taylor(a)blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
> []
>>> What? And make everyone buy their 3rd-party software again? No thanks!
>>> One of Windows strengths has been its backwards compatibility over the
>>> last 25 years.
>>
>> Is it ?, I;m sure we've had lots of problems I remember the compatibility
>> problems between different versions of Word, and PowerPoint especially.
>> Then there's problems with IE8 that we haven't upgraded from IE7.
>
> Yes, it appears to be here.

Not here it seems,
There are problems with the way IE8 does certain things but you'd need to
talk to peole that do deveolpment work.

> I think the current versions of Word and PowerPoint can read the older
> versions, and at least back to Office 2000 (ten years old software) you
> can read the current versions of the files (one-time install required).
> Certainly works fine here.

That's not what I've seen and heard..

> I've seen no problems here with IE8, it actually seems to be slightly more
> reliable than my regular browser, Firefox.

I use Firefox, Safari then IE7.
I workm in a universitiy in a computer/electronics dept, and we're as yet
not supporting IE8. I think it's because certain things just don;t run the
same as IE7.

>
> Some people are perhaps not as lucky.

One of the problems is you get one person updating to the lasted product
and then others can't read it or there are errors. So the answer is to
upgrade everyone. Easy at home with 3 computers but running a lab with
anything from a dozen to 100s PC. Also remember when teaching everything has
to be pretty much the same.



From: Mr. Strat on
In article <i0cof9$47q$1(a)qmul>, whisky-dave
<whisky-dave(a)final.front.ear> wrote:

> I workm in a universitiy in a computer/electronics dept, and we're as yet
> not supporting IE8. I think it's because certain things just don;t run the
> same as IE7.

I work in IT for a private university, and we have deployed IE8. It
hasn't been a problem with some of the oddball technology that's used
on campus.
From: whisky-dave on

"Mr. Strat" <rag(a)nospam.techline.com> wrote in message
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> In article <i0cof9$47q$1(a)qmul>, whisky-dave
> <whisky-dave(a)final.front.ear> wrote:
>
>> I workm in a universitiy in a computer/electronics dept, and we're as yet
>> not supporting IE8. I think it's because certain things just don;t run
>> the
>> same as IE7.
>
> I work in IT for a private university, and we have deployed IE8. It
> hasn't been a problem with some of the oddball technology that's used
> on campus.

Yep/no, it 'll probably would be OK if only Microsoft software was used
but we have linix various flavours and Macs and PC and all sorts of other
tech, expecting student to have the same experience on each for teaching
purpose isn't always easy.
In my lab of 36 PCs Opera seems to be the default.