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From: atec "atec77 on 20 Jan 2007 23:34 lynx wrote: > atec wrote: > >> lynx wrote: >>> atec wrote: >>> >>>> lynx wrote: >>>>> atec wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> lynx wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> G'day all. I've been having trouble with a drive. the system >>>>>>> won't boot with the drive in place, as a slave or master, >>>>>>> regardless of the system used, or the computer. I can't run any >>>>>>> 'fix it' programs eg. Norton's, as the computer won't boot even >>>>>>> to cdrom. However, I managed to get it to boot with a Seatools >>>>>>> floppy (took ages) and that reported that it couldn't read the >>>>>>> MBR. How can I fix this drive problem, if it's even fixable? I >>>>>>> can erase the drive if necessary. thanx. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> It's a 10 gig ? >>>>> >>>>> Well I am running cutting edge technology... >>>>> >>>>>> unless you have valuable data why bother >>>>> >>>>> I use it to transfer data between computers or some backups. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> when plugged in I gather the machine wont post ? >>>>>> >>>>>> in one word shagged . >>>>> >>>>> Ok. I have checked on the net, and found that I should be able to >>>>> fix it using FDISK/mbr, but then here's what happens: The computer >>>>> starts to boot from the floppy, then the hard drive is being >>>>> accessed with a noise like drrr...drrr...drrr...drrr...drrr...drrr, >>>>> and that repeats about three or four times, during which the drive >>>>> power led is on constantly. Then when that stops, the drive power >>>>> led goes off, and the computer continues to boot. Then when I run >>>>> FDISK/mbr it reports 'the MBR boot code has not been updated'. So >>>>> I'm guessing a very nasty virus, or a the drive has carked it? >>>>> >>>> Ok so it posts . go to the maxtor site and download maxllf which >>>> should clean the drive completly ( there are other tools) if it >>>> doesn't make it possible to fdisk and format it is shagged , but you >>>> might be lucky . >>>> >>> >>> Ok, I've run it. After quite some time it reports 'error reading >>> partition table drive 00 sector 0'. Then after a while the same >>> message again. Then it produced a menu, and when I ran the llformat >>> it soon returned with 'device timeout'. Running llformat again (from >>> the menu) i then got 'error bit set. Status Register: 1h Error >>> Register: 4h'. Re-running again (several times) produced the same >>> message. (well I get full marks for persistence!) So is this the >>> point where I throw it in the bin? - ceremoniously of course. >>> >>> >> Well you should dump it . in the old days we used to create two >> partitions with some software which I no longer have and not use the >> 1st partition , frankly it's shagged for all reasonable intents and >> purposes. >> Throw it gently and do the Salute' > > It's now become an 'official' paperweight. It hadn't had much use, and > was always used in a very clean temp controlled environment. Can a virus > destroy a drive like this? > > Odd you ask as several clients ( all the helstra ones I have in fact) had drive problems trashing windows/system32 I suppose it's possible as there used to be some that trashed the fat files years ago but with the likes of avast anti virus I shouldn't expect it to happen if your going to dump the drive pull it apart and learn stuff :)
From: atec "atec77 on 20 Jan 2007 23:31 Otter wrote: > In > news:45b2d104$0$11210$61c65585(a)uv-55king-reader-01.melbourne.pipenetworks.com.au, > atec" <"atec77 <"atec77 "@hotmail.com> typed: >> Kate wrote: >>> "lynx" <none(a)nothere.com> wrote in message >>> news:8bosh.3720$u8.2627(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au... >>>> atec wrote: >>>> I want to use it for. And I find that USB doesn't always work with >>>> Win98 even with the drivers loaded. >>> That's because you are a tool. So suck eggs. >> >> Obviously you have more sucking experience >>> Now I hope that this DOES help. >> it didn't >>> ha ha!! >>> >> he who laffs last is usually an idiot . > > > But a happy idiot. You'd be the unhappy one. > > Thats alright I am comfortable
From: Whatcher? on 20 Jan 2007 23:51 "me here" <gloaming_agnet(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:45b2b040_2(a)news.chariot.net.au... > lynx wrote: > >> atec wrote: >> >> > lynx wrote: >> > > >> > > G'day all. I've been having trouble with a drive. the system >> > > won't boot with the drive in place, as a slave or master, >> > > regardless of the system used, or the computer. I can't run any >> > > 'fix it' programs eg. Norton's, as the computer won't boot even >> > > to cdrom. However, I managed to get it to boot with a Seatools >> > > floppy (took ages) and that reported that it couldn't read the >> > > MBR. How can I fix this drive problem, if it's even fixable? I >> > > can erase the drive if necessary. thanx. >> > > >> > > >> > It's a 10 gig ? >> >> Well I am running cutting edge technology... >> >> > unless you have valuable data why bother >> >> I use it to transfer data between computers or some backups. >> >> > >> > when plugged in I gather the machine wont post ? >> > >> > in one word shagged . >> >> Ok. I have checked on the net, and found that I should be able to fix >> it using FDISK/mbr, but then here's what happens: The computer starts >> to boot from the floppy, then the hard drive is being accessed with a >> noise like drrr...drrr...drrr...drrr...drrr...drrr, and that repeats >> about three or four times, during which the drive power led is on >> constantly. Then when that stops, the drive power led goes off, and >> the computer continues to boot. Then when I run FDISK/mbr it reports >> 'the MBR boot code has not been updated'. So I'm guessing a very >> nasty virus, or a the drive has carked it? > > Use Delpart. > > http://www.russelltexas.com/delpart.htm > > This will kill any MBR - its deadly. > > Then try a format. > > If it won't format then the drives stuffed. > Not really. There was a virus/whatever a few years back that would lock the boot sector but do nothing much of interest else that I can remember except stuffing a few windows files. You couldn't boot, you couldn't do a damned thing. You CAN, these days, use True Image to get what you can off the C drive and put it all back minus the boot block and write a new one after using something like clearhdd to write zeroes to the boot sector. Insert True Image CD, get back everything in Windows if possible, rewrite the boot block and possibly have to do a repair install and you are away again.
From: Rod Speed on 21 Jan 2007 01:00 lynx <none(a)nothere.com> wrote: > atec wrote: > >> lynx wrote: >>> atec wrote: >>> >>>> lynx wrote: >>>>> >>>>> G'day all. I've been having trouble with a drive. the system won't >>>>> boot with the drive in place, as a slave or master, regardless of >>>>> the system used, or the computer. I can't run any 'fix it' >>>>> programs eg. Norton's, as the computer won't boot even to cdrom. >>>>> However, I managed to get it to boot with a Seatools floppy (took >>>>> ages) and that reported that it couldn't read the MBR. How can I >>>>> fix this drive problem, if it's even fixable? I can erase the >>>>> drive if necessary. thanx. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> It's a 10 gig ? >>> >>> Well I am running cutting edge technology... >>> >>>> unless you have valuable data why bother >>> >>> I use it to transfer data between computers or some backups. >>> >>>> >>>> when plugged in I gather the machine wont post ? >>>> >>>> in one word shagged . >>> >>> Ok. I have checked on the net, and found that I should be able to >>> fix it using FDISK/mbr, but then here's what happens: The computer >>> starts to boot from the floppy, then the hard drive is being >>> accessed with a noise like drrr...drrr...drrr...drrr...drrr...drrr, >>> and that repeats about three or four times, during which the drive >>> power led is on constantly. Then when that stops, the drive power >>> led goes off, and the computer continues to boot. Then when I run >>> FDISK/mbr it reports 'the MBR boot code has not been updated'. So >>> I'm guessing a very nasty virus, or a the drive has carked it? >>> >> Ok so it posts . go to the maxtor site and download maxllf which >> should clean the drive completly ( there are other tools) if it >> doesn't make it possible to fdisk and format it is shagged , but you >> might be lucky . >> > > Ok, I've run it. After quite some time it reports 'error reading > partition table drive 00 sector 0'. Then after a while the same > message again. Then it produced a menu, and when I ran the llformat > it soon returned with 'device timeout'. Running llformat again (from > the menu) i then got 'error bit set. Status Register: 1h Error > Register: 4h'. Re-running again (several times) produced the same > message. (well I get full marks for persistence!) So is this the > point where I throw it in the bin? - ceremoniously of course. Try the hard drive manufacturer's diag before you bin it. It should be possible to force the drive to reallocate that sector be writing to that sector.
From: Rod Speed on 21 Jan 2007 01:01
lynx <none(a)nothere.com> wrote: > atec wrote: > >> lynx wrote: >>> atec wrote: >>> >>>> lynx wrote: >>>>> atec wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> lynx wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> G'day all. I've been having trouble with a drive. the system >>>>>>> won't boot with the drive in place, as a slave or master, >>>>>>> regardless of the system used, or the computer. I can't run any >>>>>>> 'fix it' programs eg. Norton's, as the computer won't boot even >>>>>>> to cdrom. However, I managed to get it to boot with a Seatools >>>>>>> floppy (took ages) and that reported that it couldn't read the >>>>>>> MBR. How can I fix this drive problem, if it's even fixable? I >>>>>>> can erase the drive if necessary. thanx. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> It's a 10 gig ? >>>>> >>>>> Well I am running cutting edge technology... >>>>> >>>>>> unless you have valuable data why bother >>>>> >>>>> I use it to transfer data between computers or some backups. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> when plugged in I gather the machine wont post ? >>>>>> >>>>>> in one word shagged . >>>>> >>>>> Ok. I have checked on the net, and found that I should be able to >>>>> fix it using FDISK/mbr, but then here's what happens: The computer >>>>> starts to boot from the floppy, then the hard drive is being >>>>> accessed with a noise like >>>>> drrr...drrr...drrr...drrr...drrr...drrr, and that repeats about >>>>> three or four times, during which the drive power led is on >>>>> constantly. Then when that stops, the drive power led goes off, >>>>> and the computer continues to boot. Then when I run FDISK/mbr it >>>>> reports 'the MBR boot code has not been updated'. So I'm guessing >>>>> a very nasty virus, or a the drive has carked it? >>>> Ok so it posts . go to the maxtor site and download maxllf which >>>> should clean the drive completly ( there are other tools) if it >>>> doesn't make it possible to fdisk and format it is shagged , but >>>> you might be lucky . >>>> >>> >>> Ok, I've run it. After quite some time it reports 'error reading >>> partition table drive 00 sector 0'. Then after a while the same >>> message again. Then it produced a menu, and when I ran the llformat >>> it soon returned with 'device timeout'. Running llformat again (from >>> the menu) i then got 'error bit set. Status Register: 1h Error >>> Register: 4h'. Re-running again (several times) produced the same >>> message. (well I get full marks for persistence!) So is this the >>> point where I throw it in the bin? - ceremoniously of course. >>> >>> >> Well you should dump it . in the old days we used to create two >> partitions with some software which I no longer have and not use the >> 1st partition , frankly it's shagged for all reasonable intents and >> purposes. >> Throw it gently and do the Salute' > > It's now become an 'official' paperweight. It hadn't had much use, and > was always used in a very clean temp controlled environment. Can a > virus destroy a drive like this? Nope. |