Drive problem
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From: Whisper on 21 Jan 2007 03:03 lynx wrote: > lynx wrote: > >> me here wrote: >> >>> lynx wrote: >>> >>>> atec wrote: >>>> >>>>> lynx wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> G'day all. I've been having trouble with a drive. the system >>>>>> won't boot with the drive in place, as a slave or master, >>>>>> regardless of the system used, or the computer. I can't run any >>>>>> 'fix it' programs eg. Norton's, as the computer won't boot even >>>>>> to cdrom. However, I managed to get it to boot with a Seatools >>>>>> floppy (took ages) and that reported that it couldn't read the >>>>>> MBR. How can I fix this drive problem, if it's even fixable? I >>>>>> can erase the drive if necessary. thanx. >>>>>> >>>>> It's a 10 gig ? >>>>> >>>> Well I am running cutting edge technology... >>>> >>>>> unless you have valuable data why bother >>>>> >>>> I use it to transfer data between computers or some backups. >>>> >>>>> when plugged in I gather the machine wont post ? >>>>> >>>>> in one word shagged . >>>>> >>>> Ok. I have checked on the net, and found that I should be able to fix >>>> it using FDISK/mbr, but then here's what happens: The computer starts >>>> to boot from the floppy, then the hard drive is being accessed with a >>>> noise like drrr...drrr...drrr...drrr...drrr...drrr, and that repeats >>>> about three or four times, during which the drive power led is on >>>> constantly. Then when that stops, the drive power led goes off, and >>>> the computer continues to boot. Then when I run FDISK/mbr it reports >>>> 'the MBR boot code has not been updated'. So I'm guessing a very >>>> nasty virus, or a the drive has carked it? >>>> >>> >>> Use Delpart. >>> >>> http://www.russelltexas.com/delpart.htm >>> >>> This will kill any MBR - its deadly. >>> >>> Then try a format. >>> >>> If it won't format then the drives stuffed. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> >>> Rob >>> >>> >> >> Ok, I'll try that. Thanks. >> >> > > That reports. 'No Drive Found'. Time for the bin I feel. > > Don't be so hasty - surely there are a few more things you can try?
From: atec "atec77 on 21 Jan 2007 03:45 lynx wrote: > Whisper wrote: > >> lynx wrote: >>> lynx wrote: >>> >>>> me here wrote: >>>> >>>>> lynx wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> atec wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> lynx wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> G'day all. I've been having trouble with a drive. the system >>>>>>>> won't boot with the drive in place, as a slave or master, >>>>>>>> regardless of the system used, or the computer. I can't run any >>>>>>>> 'fix it' programs eg. Norton's, as the computer won't boot even >>>>>>>> to cdrom. However, I managed to get it to boot with a Seatools >>>>>>>> floppy (took ages) and that reported that it couldn't read the >>>>>>>> MBR. How can I fix this drive problem, if it's even fixable? I >>>>>>>> can erase the drive if necessary. thanx. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's a 10 gig ? >>>>>>> >>>>>> Well I am running cutting edge technology... >>>>>> >>>>>>> unless you have valuable data why bother >>>>>>> >>>>>> I use it to transfer data between computers or some backups. >>>>>> >>>>>>> when plugged in I gather the machine wont post ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> in one word shagged . >>>>>>> >>>>>> Ok. I have checked on the net, and found that I should be able to fix >>>>>> it using FDISK/mbr, but then here's what happens: The computer starts >>>>>> to boot from the floppy, then the hard drive is being accessed with a >>>>>> noise like drrr...drrr...drrr...drrr...drrr...drrr, and that repeats >>>>>> about three or four times, during which the drive power led is on >>>>>> constantly. Then when that stops, the drive power led goes off, and >>>>>> the computer continues to boot. Then when I run FDISK/mbr it reports >>>>>> 'the MBR boot code has not been updated'. So I'm guessing a very >>>>>> nasty virus, or a the drive has carked it? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Use Delpart. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.russelltexas.com/delpart.htm >>>>> >>>>> This will kill any MBR - its deadly. >>>>> >>>>> Then try a format. >>>>> >>>>> If it won't format then the drives stuffed. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Rob >>>>> >>>> >>>> Ok, I'll try that. Thanks. >>>> >>> >>> That reports. 'No Drive Found'. Time for the bin I feel. >>> >> >> Don't be so hasty - surely there are a few more things you can try? > > Shirley you jest? Like what.. prayer? I've tried everything that's been > suggested. > > Have you used the utilites on that disk you down loaded to mark the sectors bad that are ?
From: David Fairbrother on 21 Jan 2007 04:46 lynx wrote: > Rod Speed wrote: > >> lynx <none(a)nothere.com> wrote: >> >> >>> atec wrote: >>> >>> >>>> lynx wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> atec wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> lynx wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> G'day all. I've been having trouble with a drive. the system won't >>>>>>> boot with the drive in place, as a slave or master, regardless of >>>>>>> the system used, or the computer. I can't run any 'fix it' >>>>>>> programs eg. Norton's, as the computer won't boot even to cdrom. >>>>>>> However, I managed to get it to boot with a Seatools floppy (took >>>>>>> ages) and that reported that it couldn't read the MBR. How can I >>>>>>> fix this drive problem, if it's even fixable? I can erase the >>>>>>> drive if necessary. thanx. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It's a 10 gig ? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Well I am running cutting edge technology... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> unless you have valuable data why bother >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I use it to transfer data between computers or some backups. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> when plugged in I gather the machine wont post ? >>>>>> >>>>>> in one word shagged . >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ok. I have checked on the net, and found that I should be able to >>>>> fix it using FDISK/mbr, but then here's what happens: The computer >>>>> starts to boot from the floppy, then the hard drive is being >>>>> accessed with a noise like drrr...drrr...drrr...drrr...drrr...drrr, >>>>> and that repeats about three or four times, during which the drive >>>>> power led is on constantly. Then when that stops, the drive power >>>>> led goes off, and the computer continues to boot. Then when I run >>>>> FDISK/mbr it reports 'the MBR boot code has not been updated'. So >>>>> I'm guessing a very nasty virus, or a the drive has carked it? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Ok so it posts . go to the maxtor site and download maxllf which >>>> should clean the drive completly ( there are other tools) if it >>>> doesn't make it possible to fdisk and format it is shagged , but you >>>> might be lucky . >>>> >>> >>> Ok, I've run it. After quite some time it reports 'error reading >>> partition table drive 00 sector 0'. Then after a while the same >>> message again. Then it produced a menu, and when I ran the llformat >>> it soon returned with 'device timeout'. Running llformat again (from >>> the menu) i then got 'error bit set. Status Register: 1h Error >>> Register: 4h'. Re-running again (several times) produced the same >>> message. (well I get full marks for persistence!) So is this the >>> point where I throw it in the bin? - ceremoniously of course. >>> >> >> >> Try the hard drive manufacturer's diag before you bin it. >> > > > What would that be? It's a Quantum drive. Quantum? How long has it been in service? I think you're lucky. I had a Quantum 20gb cack it on me after 2 1/2 years of operation (light operation at that).
From: Otter on 21 Jan 2007 18:08 In news:sePsh.4202$u8.1758(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au, lynx <none(a)nothere.com> typed: > > > I'm wondering if a hard whack on the bench top might have some good > effect. Would you like to borrow my chainsaw?
From: David Fairbrother on 21 Jan 2007 19:44
lynx wrote: > David Fairbrother wrote: > >> lynx wrote: >> >>> Rod Speed wrote: >>> >>>> lynx <none(a)nothere.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> atec wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> lynx wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> atec wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> lynx wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> G'day all. I've been having trouble with a drive. the system won't >>>>>>>>> boot with the drive in place, as a slave or master, regardless of >>>>>>>>> the system used, or the computer. I can't run any 'fix it' >>>>>>>>> programs eg. Norton's, as the computer won't boot even to cdrom. >>>>>>>>> However, I managed to get it to boot with a Seatools floppy (took >>>>>>>>> ages) and that reported that it couldn't read the MBR. How can I >>>>>>>>> fix this drive problem, if it's even fixable? I can erase the >>>>>>>>> drive if necessary. thanx. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's a 10 gig ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Well I am running cutting edge technology... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> unless you have valuable data why bother >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I use it to transfer data between computers or some backups. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> when plugged in I gather the machine wont post ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> in one word shagged . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ok. I have checked on the net, and found that I should be able to >>>>>>> fix it using FDISK/mbr, but then here's what happens: The computer >>>>>>> starts to boot from the floppy, then the hard drive is being >>>>>>> accessed with a noise like drrr...drrr...drrr...drrr...drrr...drrr, >>>>>>> and that repeats about three or four times, during which the drive >>>>>>> power led is on constantly. Then when that stops, the drive power >>>>>>> led goes off, and the computer continues to boot. Then when I run >>>>>>> FDISK/mbr it reports 'the MBR boot code has not been updated'. So >>>>>>> I'm guessing a very nasty virus, or a the drive has carked it? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Ok so it posts . go to the maxtor site and download maxllf which >>>>>> should clean the drive completly ( there are other tools) if it >>>>>> doesn't make it possible to fdisk and format it is shagged , but you >>>>>> might be lucky . >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ok, I've run it. After quite some time it reports 'error reading >>>>> partition table drive 00 sector 0'. Then after a while the same >>>>> message again. Then it produced a menu, and when I ran the llformat >>>>> it soon returned with 'device timeout'. Running llformat again (from >>>>> the menu) i then got 'error bit set. Status Register: 1h Error >>>>> Register: 4h'. Re-running again (several times) produced the same >>>>> message. (well I get full marks for persistence!) So is this the >>>>> point where I throw it in the bin? - ceremoniously of course. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Try the hard drive manufacturer's diag before you bin it. >>>> >>> >>> >>> What would that be? It's a Quantum drive. >> >> >> Quantum? How long has it been in service? >> I think you're lucky. I had a Quantum 20gb cack it on me after 2 1/2 >> years of operation (light operation at that). > > > I haven't had any drives that I've bought new fail- going right back to > and including a Quantum 545mb i paid $500 for way back when I can't even > remember when! This one came from a computer that was given to me. > > You've been lucky :( the Quantum I had was a part of an HP machine. I've had two drives fail on me - one was a Maxtor 1.6gb from 1996 (failed after 6 years, I didn't hold anything against it) and the said Quantum. |