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Arno wrote
> ANTant(a)zimage.com wrote

>> I noticed my five(?) years old office PC's HDD is getting slower and
>> slower these days. I wonder if it is dying. I don't see anything in
>> SMART colors to show any issues. The technical values confuse me:

> Looks healthy.

Yes.

> Likely just fragmented like crazy

Wont be that.

> or low on free space.

Or that either.

Neither will produce those symptoms.

>> smartctl -a sda
>> smartctl version 5.38 [i686-mingw32-xp-sp2] Copyright (C) 2002-8
>> Bruce Allen
>> Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/
>
>> === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
>> Model Family: Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 9 family
>> Device Model: Maxtor 6Y080M0
>> Serial Number: Y22BP5AC
>> Firmware Version: YAR51HW0
>> User Capacity: 80,000,000,000 bytes
>> Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
>> ATA Version is: 7
>> ATA Standard is: ATA/ATAPI-7 T13 1532D revision 0
>> Local Time is: Tue Dec 29 15:33:24 2009 PST
>> SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
>> Enabled status cached by OS, trying SMART RETURN
>> STATUS cmd.
>> SMART support is: Enabled
>
>> === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
>> SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
>
>> General SMART Values:
>> Offline data collection status: (0x82) Offline data collection
>> activity was completed
>> without error. Auto Offline
>> Data Collection: Enabled.
>> Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test
>> routine completed without
>> error or no self-test has
>> ever been run.
>> Total time to complete Offline
>> data collection: ( 241) seconds.
>> Offline data collection
>> capabilities: (0x5b) SMART execute Offline
>> immediate. Auto Offline data
>> collection on/off support.
>> Suspend Offline collection
>> upon new command. Offline
>> surface scan supported.
>> Self-test supported. No
>> Conveyance Self-test
>> supported. Selective Self-test supported.
>> SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before
>> entering power-saving mode.
>> Supports SMART auto save
>> timer.
>> Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
>> No General Purpose Logging
>> support.
>> Short self-test routine
>> recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes.
>> Extended self-test routine
>> recommended polling time: ( 36) minutes.
>
>> SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
>> Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
>> ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE
>> UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0027
>> 224 224 063 Pre-fail Always - 7747 4
>> Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 253 253 000 Old_age
>> Always - 65 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 253
>> 253 063 Pre-fail Always - 0 6 Read_Channel_Margin
>> 0x0001 253 253 100 Pre-fail Offline - 0 7
>> Seek_Error_Rate 0x000a 253 252 000 Old_age
>> Always - 0 8 Seek_Time_Performance 0x0027 248 237
>> 187 Pre-fail Always - 38101 9 Power_On_Minutes
>> 0x0032 141 141 000 Old_age Always - 614h+43m
>> 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x002b 253 252 157 Pre-fail
>> Always - 0 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x002b 253 252
>> 223 Pre-fail Always - 0 12 Power_Cycle_Count
>> 0x0032 253 253 000 Old_age Always - 72 192
>> Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 253 253 000 Old_age Always
>> - 0 193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 253 253 000
>> Old_age Always - 0 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0032
>> 253 253 000 Old_age Always - 50 195
>> Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x000a 253 252 000 Old_age Always
>> - 924 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0008 253 253 000
>> Old_age Offline - 0 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0008
>> 253 253 000 Old_age Offline - 0 198
>> Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0008 253 253 000 Old_age
>> Offline - 0 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0008 199
>> 199 000 Old_age Offline - 0 200
>> Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x000a 253 252 000 Old_age Always
>> - 0 201 Soft_Read_Error_Rate 0x000a 253 243 000
>> Old_age Always - 15 202 TA_Increase_Count 0x000a
>> 253 252 000 Old_age Always - 0 203
>> Run_Out_Cancel 0x000b 253 252 180 Pre-fail Always
>> - 2 204 Shock_Count_Write_Opern 0x000a 253 252 000
>> Old_age Always - 0 205 Shock_Rate_Write_Opern 0x000a
>> 253 252 000 Old_age Always - 0 207
>> Spin_High_Current 0x002a 253 252 000 Old_age Always
>> - 0 208 Spin_Buzz 0x002a 253 252 000
>> Old_age Always - 0 209 Offline_Seek_Performnce 0x0024
>> 191 191 000 Old_age Offline - 0 99
>> Unknown_Attribute 0x0004 253 253 000 Old_age
>> Offline - 0 100 Unknown_Attribute 0x0004 253
>> 253 000 Old_age Offline - 0 101 Unknown_Attribute
>> 0x0004 253 253 000 Old_age Offline - 0
>
>> SMART Error Log Version: 1
>> No Errors Logged
>
>> SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
>> Num Test_Description Status Remaining
>> LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error # 1 Extended offline
>> Completed without error 00% 35352 - # 2 Extended
>> offline Completed without error 00% 29236 - # 3
>> Short offline Completed without error 00% 0
>> -
>
>> SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
>> SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
>> 1 0 0 Not_testing
>> 2 0 0 Not_testing
>> 3 0 0 Not_testing
>> 4 0 0 Not_testing
>> 5 0 0 Not_testing
>> Selective self-test flags (0x0):
>> After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
>> If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute
>> delay.
>
>
>> What do you guys think? Thank you in advance. :)
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From: Rod Speed on
ANTant(a)zimage.com wrote:

> I noticed my five(?) years old office PC's HDD is getting slower and
> slower these days. I wonder if it is dying. I don't see anything in
> SMART colors to show any issues. The technical values confuse me:

Check if the DMA has got turned off somehow.


From: Ant on
On 12/29/2009 6:42 PM PT, Rod Speed typed:

> Its still fine, nothing that matters has changed in the SMART report.

Thanks again. :)
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From: Ant on
On 12/29/2009 6:59 PM PT, Arno typed:

>> I noticed my five(?) years old office PC's HDD is getting slower and
>> slower these days. I wonder if it is dying. I don't see anything in
>> SMART colors to show any issues. The technical values confuse me:
>
> Looks healthy. Likely just fragmented like crazy or low on free
> space.

I actually did defrag, but that didn't seem to help. Hmm! Nothing odd in
task manager. I did notice lots of disk activities.
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From: Ant on
On 12/29/2009 9:00 PM PT, Franc Zabkar typed:

> On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:42:18 -0600, ANTant(a)zimage.com put finger to
> keyboard and composed:
>
>> I noticed my five(?) years old office PC's HDD ...
>
> Model Family: Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 9 family
>
> 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 253 253 000 Old_age Always
> - 65
>
> 9 Power_On_Minutes 0x0032 141 141 000 Old_age Always
> - 614h+43m
>
> Hmmm, you have an old generation HDD that has run for only 614 hours
> and has been power cycled only 65 times ???

The PC is mostly on 24/7. Very rare that it is off. It does get rebooted
like every two weeks or so due to Windows Updates or whatever.



>> ... is getting slower and slower these days.
>
> Check whether it has been downgraded from DMA mode to PIO.

Would that be in XP Pro. SP2's Device Manager?


>> I wonder if it is dying. I don't see anything in
>> SMART colors to show any issues. The technical values confuse me:
>
>> 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0032 253 253 000 Old_age Always - 50
>
> The temperature is about 10C too high for my liking.

It's a Dell Optiplex GX270 or 280 (always get them mixxed up) case. :(
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