From: Peter Foldes on
If infected System Restore will do more harm than good. Besides System Restore will
not get rid of any malware and or virus

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"Jim" <bojimbo261(a)aol.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 23:49:08 -0800 (PST), pg <penang(a)catholic.org>
> wrote:
>
>>HELP, I NEED HELP !!
>>
>>Last night I used my computer everything was ok, and today, all
>>browsers except Google Chrome suddenly can't be used anymore !
>>
>>My computer has a 4-core CPU, with 4GB of RAM, running XP Pro, and I
>>upgraded it to SP3.
>>
>>I have IE, FF, Opera and Google Chrome in my system. Normally I use
>>IE, but from time to time I do use other browsers as backup.
>>
>>However, everything changed this morning.
>>
>>Suddenly, every single browser, except Google Chrome, can no longer be
>>used.
>>
>>I clicked on IE, nothing came up.
>>
>>Clicked FF, still nothing.
>>
>>Click on Opera, same, nothing.
>>
>>Check under Task Manager, they are there, eating up a lot of CPU
>>cycles (80% of 3 of the 4-cores)
>>
>>Then I click on Google Chrome, it works !!!
>>
>>I even re-downloaded new copies of IE, FF and Opera and re-installed
>>them.
>>
>>Still no use.
>>
>>I downloaded Dr. TCP and also TCP Optimizer to check if anything is
>>wrong with the TCP setting, no problem so far.
>>
>>I mean, if Google Chrome can run, TCP must have been working, right?
>>
>>But still the other 3 browsers aren't !
>>
>>Can anyone tell me how to diagnose what is wrong?
>>
>>Please help !!
>>
>>Thank you !!
>
> System restore back a day ?

From: Bill in Co. on
Peter Foldes wrote:
> If infected System Restore will do more harm than good. Besides System
> Restore will not get rid of any malware and or virus

But what would be the consequences of doing it, if he went back to a Restore
point prior to the infection? (I'm assuming System Restore would have
monitored the files added since that time, including the malware files, so
that a restore operation could and would delete these problematic files, too
(assuming they were of the types being monitored by SR, which seems likely).

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> "Jim" <bojimbo261(a)aol.com> wrote in message
> news:r2nci5d6iau38f1tfjlhdieo9egrnbe4qc(a)4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 23:49:08 -0800 (PST), pg <penang(a)catholic.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> HELP, I NEED HELP !!
>>>
>>> Last night I used my computer everything was ok, and today, all
>>> browsers except Google Chrome suddenly can't be used anymore !
>>>
>>> My computer has a 4-core CPU, with 4GB of RAM, running XP Pro, and I
>>> upgraded it to SP3.
>>>
>>> I have IE, FF, Opera and Google Chrome in my system. Normally I use
>>> IE, but from time to time I do use other browsers as backup.
>>>
>>> However, everything changed this morning.
>>>
>>> Suddenly, every single browser, except Google Chrome, can no longer be
>>> used.
>>>
>>> I clicked on IE, nothing came up.
>>>
>>> Clicked FF, still nothing.
>>>
>>> Click on Opera, same, nothing.
>>>
>>> Check under Task Manager, they are there, eating up a lot of CPU
>>> cycles (80% of 3 of the 4-cores)
>>>
>>> Then I click on Google Chrome, it works !!!
>>>
>>> I even re-downloaded new copies of IE, FF and Opera and re-installed
>>> them.
>>>
>>> Still no use.
>>>
>>> I downloaded Dr. TCP and also TCP Optimizer to check if anything is
>>> wrong with the TCP setting, no problem so far.
>>>
>>> I mean, if Google Chrome can run, TCP must have been working, right?
>>>
>>> But still the other 3 browsers aren't !
>>>
>>> Can anyone tell me how to diagnose what is wrong?
>>>
>>> Please help !!
>>>
>>> Thank you !!
>>
>> System restore back a day ?


From: Bill in Co. on
Addended, in retrospect.
Bill in Co. wrote:
> Peter Foldes wrote:
>> If infected System Restore will do more harm than good. Besides System
>> Restore will not get rid of any malware and or virus
>
> But what would be the consequences of doing it, if he went back to a
> Restore
> point prior to the infection? (I'm assuming System Restore would have
> monitored the files added since that time, including the malware files, so
> that a restore operation could and would delete these problematic files,
> too
> (assuming they were of the types being monitored by SR, which seems
> likely).

Maybe my assumption that System Restore could delete the newly added virus
files during its Restore operation is in error, and that those files would
be likely be "locked" by the virus program, so that System Restore would
most likely fail. Is that the essence of the problem in trying to use
System Restore in this case?


From: Peter Foldes on
System Restore will not clean an infected computer

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"Bill in Co." <not_really_here(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Peter Foldes wrote:
>> If infected System Restore will do more harm than good. Besides System
>> Restore will not get rid of any malware and or virus
>
> But what would be the consequences of doing it, if he went back to a Restore point
> prior to the infection? (I'm assuming System Restore would have monitored the
> files added since that time, including the malware files, so that a restore
> operation could and would delete these problematic files, too (assuming they were
> of the types being monitored by SR, which seems likely).
>
>> Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
>> Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
>>
>> "Jim" <bojimbo261(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:r2nci5d6iau38f1tfjlhdieo9egrnbe4qc(a)4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 23:49:08 -0800 (PST), pg <penang(a)catholic.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> HELP, I NEED HELP !!
>>>>
>>>> Last night I used my computer everything was ok, and today, all
>>>> browsers except Google Chrome suddenly can't be used anymore !
>>>>
>>>> My computer has a 4-core CPU, with 4GB of RAM, running XP Pro, and I
>>>> upgraded it to SP3.
>>>>
>>>> I have IE, FF, Opera and Google Chrome in my system. Normally I use
>>>> IE, but from time to time I do use other browsers as backup.
>>>>
>>>> However, everything changed this morning.
>>>>
>>>> Suddenly, every single browser, except Google Chrome, can no longer be
>>>> used.
>>>>
>>>> I clicked on IE, nothing came up.
>>>>
>>>> Clicked FF, still nothing.
>>>>
>>>> Click on Opera, same, nothing.
>>>>
>>>> Check under Task Manager, they are there, eating up a lot of CPU
>>>> cycles (80% of 3 of the 4-cores)
>>>>
>>>> Then I click on Google Chrome, it works !!!
>>>>
>>>> I even re-downloaded new copies of IE, FF and Opera and re-installed
>>>> them.
>>>>
>>>> Still no use.
>>>>
>>>> I downloaded Dr. TCP and also TCP Optimizer to check if anything is
>>>> wrong with the TCP setting, no problem so far.
>>>>
>>>> I mean, if Google Chrome can run, TCP must have been working, right?
>>>>
>>>> But still the other 3 browsers aren't !
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone tell me how to diagnose what is wrong?
>>>>
>>>> Please help !!
>>>>
>>>> Thank you !!
>>>
>>> System restore back a day ?
>
>

From: Bill in Co. on
Yes, I know you said that, but I asked specifically about what would be the
consequences of running System Restore in more detail, Peter (see below).

Peter Foldes wrote:
> System Restore will not clean an infected computer
>
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>
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> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:%23G4wGDPfKHA.1652(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Peter Foldes wrote:
>>> If infected System Restore will do more harm than good. Besides System
>>> Restore will not get rid of any malware and or virus
>>
>> But what would be the consequences of doing it, if he went back to a
>> Restore
>> point prior to the infection? (I'm assuming System Restore would have
>> monitored the files added since that time, including the malware files,
>> so
>> that a restore operation could and would delete these problematic files,
>> too
>> (assuming they were of the types being monitored by SR, which seems
>> likely).

Except I addended this to point out a possible limitation, in that some of
the virus files might be locked down so that System Restore couldn't delete
them during its Restore operation.