How to tell a rank amateur from a seasoned one, or a pro
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From: John Navas on 22 Jun 2010 22:43 On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 18:48:22 -0500, in <ecednU2ZtrjbZ4LRnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, Rich <none(a)nowhere.com> wrote: >John Navas <jncl1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote in >news:mktv16t6qcrgeu0cdi5epjp2efkogvcfsi(a)4ax.com: >> While really "cheap" P&S do have their limitations, affordable P&S >> (compact digital) cameras are now easily capable of producing excellent >> images. When something falls short, it's the photographer, not the >> eequipment. > >Go shoot a close-in sports even and say that. Been there; done that; very nice results. >All equipment has >limitations, some a lot more than others True. >and the photographer (no matter >how good) is at a disadvantage because of it. The good photographer simply makes the best use of the equipment available. -- Best regards, John Buying a dSLR doesn't make you a photographer, it makes you a dSLR owner. "The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it." -Ansel Adams
From: John Navas on 22 Jun 2010 22:45 On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 22:58:16 -0400, in <3j90265tg28g01cjm5er1rbtd9ip7rkbjv(a)4ax.com>, Robert Coe <bob(a)1776.COM> wrote: >On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 10:23:44 -0700, John Navas <jncl1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: >: The only way to tell to tell a rank amateur from a seasoned one, or a >: pro, is to look at their images. Equipment is irrelevant, except to >: those who mistakenly think great equipment will make them great >: photographers. It won't. What matters is the photographer, not the >: equipment. > >How dare you, sir? I spent more than $600 on my wide-angle lens. If that >doesn't count for something, there's no justice in the world! Touche! :) -- Best regards, John Buying a dSLR doesn't make you a photographer, it makes you a dSLR owner. "The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it." -Ansel Adams
From: John Navas on 22 Jun 2010 22:48 On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 06:26:37 -0700, in <mS2Un.40783$7d5.23651(a)newsfe17.iad>, "gordito995(a)teranews.com" <none(a)phony.net> wrote: >"RichA" <rander3127(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >news:ccd9a097-d27c-4940-8488-d3124e49cd48(a)e5g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... >> The original poster is a rank amateur. > >The pro does not denigrate others. He is able to rise above that and provide >positive responses. "Keep away from people who try to belittle your ambitions. Small people always do that, but the really great make you feel that you, too, can become great." -Mark Twain
From: John McWilliams on 23 Jun 2010 01:27 John Navas wrote: > On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 18:48:22 -0500, in > <ecednU2ZtrjbZ4LRnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, Rich <none(a)nowhere.com> >> All equipment has >> limitations, some a lot more than others > > True. > >> and the photographer (no matter >> how good) is at a disadvantage because of it. > > The good photographer simply makes the best use of the equipment > available. Amen. -- john mcwilliams
From: Pete Stavrakoglou on 23 Jun 2010 08:12
"SMS" <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote in message news:4c211bae$0$1638$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net... > John McWilliams wrote: >> SMS wrote: >>> gordito995(a)teranews.com wrote: >> >>>> The pro does not denigrate others. He is able to rise above that and >>>> provide positive responses. >>> >>> It's denigrating someone to state the fact about their experience level. >>> Everyone was a "rant amateur" at some point. >> >> << Snipped bits out >> >> >> Was that a typo, or a clever pun?? We do seem to have our share of >> ranters, both rank and seasoned. > > A typo, but maybe a Freudian slip, LOL. It can sometimes be a fine line > when you explain to others something that they may not want to hear. If > they're sensitive about having made a mistake they can respond defensively > or in anger. You certainly see this often on rec.photo.digital. It's an > attitude that I don't like, but I can accept the fact that there are times > when I may not have bought the best product for the money, without being > upset about it. > >> IAE, no one seems to be talking about the rank pro vs. seasoned >> amateur..... > > The seasoned amateur does not own a 4:3 or micro 4:3 camera. That will come as a surprise to the seasoned amateurs I know who have a 4/3 system. |