From: John Navas on
On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:23:45 GMT, "David J Taylor"
<david-taylor(a)blueyonder.not-this-bit.nor-this.co.uk.invalid> wrote in
<lG%Dm.432$5w5.35(a)text.news.virginmedia.com>:

>At the 768 x 1024 pixel resolution it looks not too bad, although so
>contrasty that all the noise is the shadows has been darkened below black.
>The DP Review was making the point that it was for the /same/ money as the
>G10 (and certainly for the G11) that you could have got much better
>quality at ISO 1600, and you could probably be shooting at ISO 12800 or
>ISO 25600 to get similar quality to your G10/3200 images.
>
>I also have a compact camera for those occasions when it's more
>appropriate, although I find myself using it less and less now that the
>DSLR has video. ...

To each his own. The new S90 is terrific in low light, and so small and
sleek that it's far more practical as a carry around camera than a dSLR.

--
Best regards,
John

Buying a dSLR doesn't make you a photographer,
it makes you a dSLR owner.
"The single most important component of a camera
is the twelve inches behind it." -Ansel Adams
From: John Navas on
On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:56:13 +1000, Bob Larter <bobbylarter(a)gmail.com>
wrote in <4ae05670$1(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au>:

>Jim...(8-| wrote:

>> I'd like to find a site that shows how the old film stuff compares,
>> I've been looking on and off for a long time now and haven't found a
>> url that shows how film shows up against digital cameras.
>
>Film vs digital was a perennial topic here a few years ago, but the
>latest (1-2 years old) DSLRs are clearly better now.

Likewise with compact digital cameras,
and true for much longer than 1-2 years.

--
Best regards,
John

Buying a dSLR doesn't make you a photographer,
it makes you a dSLR owner.
"The single most important component of a camera
is the twelve inches behind it." -Ansel Adams
From: nospam on
In article <e031e51rsu0li52pbkbkoo45hddkfdjfpp(a)4ax.com>, John Navas
<spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:

> >> >the best dslrs now have very good iso 3200 performance and are very
> >> >usable at higher speeds. it opens up a world of new opportunities, many
> >> >that were considered impossible just a few years ago.
> >>
> >> None that I need.
> >
> >More likely, its "None that you've considered".
>
> With that insult you concede the debate. Thanks for saving me the time.
> And feel free to rant on without me -- I'm giving you the last word.

don't flatter yourself. that's not in any way an insult.

it's nothing more than your standard way to weasel out of a debate
which you are clearly losing. you even have the text ready to be
copy/pasted whenever you need it. very telling.
From: nospam on
In article <2131e59fuj1vutb4kua0p0htm3iacg5mro(a)4ax.com>, John Navas
<spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:

> Whether ISO 3200 matters or not is only a matter of personal preference,

obviously. just as it is with any feature.

> and to me, and I think to a large majority of other people, it doesn't
> matter, making it irrelevant.

you think wrong.
From: nospam on
In article <3e31e5pt4q50r7j3oo2i7egisd9sjr4dsh(a)4ax.com>, John Navas
<spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:

> >>The best compact digital cameras now have very good ISO 400 performance.
> >
> >Even assuming you are correct - how are they at 1600 or 3200?
>
> How is your dSLR at ISO 204800?

how is your straw man?

> Both questions are meaningless.

it is not a meaningless. compacts suck at 1600-3200, dslrs do not. very
simple.