From: 98 Guy on
I'm going to re-post this for MEB, because his favorite usenet server
censored this the first time.

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MEB wrote:

> Wait a minute 98 Guy, on one hand *you recommend* installation of
> *IE6 updates from W2K* into Win9X [you have repeatedly done that
> in the win98.gen_discussion group], and here you state that leaving
> Win98 IE6 at SP1 EOL level provides protection...

What I said was this:

| What it also means is that after June 2010, you're safer
| (from a drive-by exploit POV) running Win-98 than you are
| running win-2k.

The intention being that all 98-operable IE6 updates being made
available for 2K are being applied to 98 all along during the past 3
years - on the off-chance that circulating IE6 exploit code does in fact
execute properly on win-98 (and so the win-2K patches would therefore
provide protection against those exploits).

> I previously made similar statements wherein I said

You are saying that you now believe that a win-98 machine is better off
with IE6 as it existed as of June 2006 vs having FF 2.0.0.20 as it
existed at it's EOL.

I would argue that surfing the web with IE6 is today a joke, and has
been for several years, due to the horrible job that IE6 does with
current web content, and that any vulnerabilities that is exposed by FF
..20 is trivial compared to the decency of the web experience it
provides.

> And in others where *you* specifically argued and recommended
> these installations of W2K update files into 9X IE6 REGARDLESS
> of any new vulnerabilities these might install.

You continue to flog that bogus argument that these IE6 patches might,
or do, contain new (but undiscovered) vulnerabilities. What a complete
load of horse s.h.i.t thinking that is.

That logic could be applied to *ANY* patch or update that microsoft
releases *for anything*.

By your logic, if I'm running win-2K, and Microsoft releases a new IE6
patch for 2K, then maybe I shouldn't install it because even if fixes a
known vulnerability, it may give my system a new vulnerability to be
discovered at a later date.

I've pointed that out to you before, and you never provide a
satisfactory response.

> On the other hand, it takes a malicious website a few
> milliseconds to determine *exactly* what a browser supports
> and what OS is being run [do to what the OS supports/offers
> within it], hence its vulnerabilities, so...

And by that you are supposing:

a) operable unpatched IE6 vulnerabilities exists today within
win-98, and

b) hackers actually are aware of the vulnerabilities and have coded
them for correct delivery via web-server user-agent detection.

If you are aware of any real instances of (a), please tell us.

I don't have to tell you that the probability of (b) is low and getting
lower all the time.
From: ANONYMOUS on

"N. Miller" <anonymous(a)msnews.aosake.net> wrote in message
news:1g8lrbiq3e1b0$.dlg(a)msnews.aosake.net...

> PA Bear is no more an MS "poodle" than you, puddinghead.
>
How the hell did you work this out with your small penis? In physics I have
worked out that people with small penises have smaller brain and
consequently they don't think rationally. they are depressed sods.



From: ANONYMOUS on

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:enHx6RimKHA.3792(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Bingo! Give the man a cigar.

Most probably he doesn't smoke but you can try here:

http://www.sunbingo.co.uk/?CMP=KNL-NBSgoogle&HBX_PK=bingo+com&gclid=CKDbgL-ttJ8CFRpBlAod-1DjxA

Who knows you can meet a fellow geriatric there.



From: Sunny on

"MEB" <MEB-not-here(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eWwK5plmKHA.1824(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
<snip>
> THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT OSs which require patches SPECIFIC to the OS
> intended AND per whatever present level.... e.g., in the NTs the
> specific Service pack level... the meory handling is different, the file
> handling is different, the systems react in different ways...
> DUUUUUHHHHHHH

Microsoft has just announced a patch for IE6, wonder which OS it will be
aimed at :-)

(I still use IE6 in Win98SE, and the Update site still shows me a few
critical updates avail)


From: MEB on
On 01/21/2010 12:56 AM, Sunny wrote:
> "MEB" <MEB-not-here(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eWwK5plmKHA.1824(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> <snip>
>> THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT OSs which require patches SPECIFIC to the OS
>> intended AND per whatever present level.... e.g., in the NTs the
>> specific Service pack level... the meory handling is different, the file
>> handling is different, the systems react in different ways...
>> DUUUUUHHHHHHH
>
> Microsoft has just announced a patch for IE6, wonder which OS it will be
> aimed at :-)
>
> (I still use IE6 in Win98SE, and the Update site still shows me a few
> critical updates avail)
>
>

That's a choice you make.
What supposed criticals?
Since EOL?

My guess would be the NT based systems as usual. I would look for a
potential pull of IE6 or NT support sooner than expected. Maybe not,
since W2K is still under support..

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