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From: Petzl on 22 Jun 2010 23:30
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 02:30:50 +0000 (UTC), terryc
<newsninespam-spam(a)woa.com.au> wrote:

>On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 08:32:12 +1000, Petzl wrote:
>
>
>> Whatever! The Government though, seems to be already preparing for
>> Internet connectivity
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/22/aus_cybercrime_report/ "Security
>> Essentials" is available "Free" from Microsoft for XP and above (as good
>> as there is avaiable, Malware protection FREE)
>
>The gummint has prepared for nothing except kickbacks from Microsoft for
>stepping up its effort to force MS products onto everyone.

I remember you when WIN95 came out SPCUG (and before)
Fact is in WIN3.11 NAV.exe anti-Virus was included but removed from
WIN95 because of competition issues with existing anti-virus
companies.

I do think after Vista proved to be such a stinker that many will
switch to "Google Chrome OS" (Linux based) as it becomes available
(overdue now)

>> http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/ Fact is without effective
>> protection Super Broadband for Grandma, Mum, Dad, Kids, etc, can result
>> in Australia being blocked as is Brazil etc for malicous behaviour.
>
>Cheese and chalk. One is victim, other is perpetrator.
>And what are the IP numbers allocated to Brazil? I will see what my
>mailer says about the effectiveness of this "blockade".

I use "br.countries.nerd.dk"
You can find specific IP's here
http://www.countryipblocks.net/country-blocks/select-formats/

I also use Greylisting (only allows email servers)
with spamassasin (set on 5)
I find most email servers react to spam reports Brazil don't in fact
encourages more. I suspect it's something to do with Brazilian humour,
they think spamming and virus's are funny?
Petzl
--
Our parliaments need to obey our Constitutions,
the judiciary must apply the law
"Dieu et mon droit" God is my legal right
From: Addinall on 23 Jun 2010 02:54
On Jun 23, 12:30 pm, terryc <newsninespam-s...(a)woa.com.au> wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 08:32:12 +1000, Petzl wrote:
> > Whatever! The Government though, seems to be already preparing for
> > Internet connectivity
> >http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/22/aus_cybercrime_report/"Security
> > Essentials" is available "Free" from Microsoft for XP and above (as good
> > as there is avaiable, Malware protection FREE)
>
> The gummint has prepared for nothing except kickbacks from Microsoft for
> stepping up its effort to force MS products onto everyone.
>
> >http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/Fact is without effective
> > protection Super Broadband for Grandma, Mum, Dad, Kids, etc, can result
> > in Australia being blocked as is Brazil etc for malicous behaviour.
>
> Cheese and chalk. One is victim, other is perpetrator.
> And what are the IP numbers allocated to Brazil? I will see what my
> mailer says about the effectiveness of this "blockade".

# Country: BRAZIL
# ISO Code: BR
# Total Networks: 270
# Total Subnets: 36,046,336
139.82.0.0/16
143.54.0.0/16
143.106.0.0/16
143.107.0.0/16
143.108.0.0/16
144.23.0.0/16
146.134.0.0/16
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147.65.0.0/16
150.161.0.0/16
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150.165.0.0/16
152.84.0.0/16
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157.86.0.0/16
161.24.0.0/16
161.79.0.0/16
161.148.0.0/16
164.41.0.0/16
164.85.0.0/16
170.66.0.0/16
186.192.0.0/11
187.0.0.0/11
187.32.0.0/11
187.64.0.0/11
187.96.0.0/11
189.0.0.0/11
189.32.0.0/11
189.64.0.0/11
189.96.0.0/11
192.80.209.0/24
192.111.229.0/24
192.111.230.0/24
192.132.35.0/24
192.146.157.0/24
192.146.229.0/24
192.147.210.0/24
192.147.218.0/24
192.153.88.0/24
192.153.120.0/24
192.153.155.0/24
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192.160.45.0/24
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192.195.237.0/24
192.198.8.0/21
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192.223.64.0/18
192.231.114.0/23
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192.231.175.0/24
192.231.176.0/24
198.12.32.0/19
198.17.120.0/23
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198.49.128.0/22
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198.50.16.0/21
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198.184.161.0/24
200.0.8.0/21
200.0.32.0/20
200.0.48.0/21
200.0.56.0/22
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200.3.16.0/20
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200.128.0.0/9
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201.32.0.0/12
201.48.0.0/12
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206.221.80.0/20

Pretzl is quite insane.

Mark Addinall.
From: Hunter on 23 Jun 2010 08:42
On 23/06/2010 7:44 AM, Addinall wrote:
> On Jun 23, 8:32 am, Petzl<pet...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 15:17:16 -0700 (PDT), Addinall
>>
>>
>>
>> <addin...(a)addinall.org> wrote:
>>> Buy an iPod and a 3G wireless card.
>>
>>> Funny thing is, it isn't going to get much better. Telstra have just
>>> been given $11 billion to carry on as normal! The KRudd
>>> government got rolled in an effort to get JUST ONE policy
>>> through!
>>
>>> The NBN is now going to be super-duper 100 Mbps for those that
>>> want to forgo pleasures in life such as eating. This will use
>>> BRAND NEW optical fiber (apart from where Telstra (and OPTUS)
>>> already has dark fiber waiting to be lit-up).
>>
>>> The NBN is now considering (100%) using the existing cable to
>>> ALSO provide BRAND NEW high speed to the home. This has
>>> been planned for ages. A switch upgrade will do much of the work.
>>
>>> The NBN is now going to USE BRAND NEW WIRELESS technology
>>> to get to those in urban black spots. Ahem, what happens now?
>>
>>> And the folk who can't get ADSL2+, CABLE, FTTH, FTTN (wireless)
>>> are going to be using a satellite system. As it has always been in
>>> the 20+ years I have been installing systems around Australia.
>>> And until we get some Ka birds in the air, speed is not going to
>>> change
>>> one little bit.
>>
>>> Even Ka band in Geostationary orbit isgoing to still put up with
>>> latency. If you want JEOs, you need a lot of them.
>>
>>> Mark Addinall.
>>
>> Whatever! The Government though, seems to be already preparing for
>> Internet connectivityhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/22/aus_cybercrime_report/
>
> That's nice to hear. The rest of us started in 1989. Twenty one
> years ago, or
> thereabouts....
>
>> "Security Essentials" is available "Free" from Microsoft for XP and
>> above (as good as there is avaiable, Malware protection FREE)http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/
>> Fact is without effective protection Super Broadband for Grandma, Mum,
>> Dad, Kids, etc, can result in Australia being blocked as is Brazil etc
>> for malicous behaviour.
>
> What planet do you live on Pretzl?
>
> Mark Addinall.


Now I'm more than a little afraid... Still I suppose it was the obvious
question after that lunacy. Anyone who's read any of that report, and
takes it even remotely seriously, should never be allowed within a mile
of a computer.

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