From: RichB on
On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 22:09:37 -0400, tony cooper
<tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 17:37:52 -0700 (PDT), otter
><bighorn_bill(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Jul 5, 9:59�am, Robert Coe <b...(a)1776.COM> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 06:35:57 -0700 (PDT), otter <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> : On Jul 5, 8:21�am, Robert Coe <b...(a)1776.COM> wrote:
>>> : > On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 08:07:54 -0700, Paul Furman <pa...@-edgehill.net> wrote:
>>> : > : Bowser wrote:
>>> : >
>>> : > : > First Rerun: The Pinhole Photo, Due July 18th, 2010
>>> : > : > This is a looser rerun of the very first mandate, which requires the
>>> : > : > shooter to flip a map upside down, stick a pin in it, and then grab a
>>> : > : > shot at that location on the map. However, I've expanded the mandate
>>> : > : > to "your area," which can be town, city, state, etc. Use the whole
>>> : > : > earth, if you dare. Drive to Yosemite, stick a pin in a map of the
>>> : > : > park, and see if need to hike to the Diving Board. And, with the new
>>> : > : > rules about submissions, you can use three pins for three locations
>>> : > : > and submit three photos.
>>> : > :
>>> : > : Here's one way to choose your map pin spot:
>>> : > :
>>> : > :http://irc.peeron.com/xkcd/map/map.html?date=2010-07-04&lat=37&long=-...
>>> : > :
>>> : > : explanation:
>>> : > :http://wiki.xkcd.com/geohashing/Main_Page
>>> : >
>>> : > I've recently been assigned to photograph all the points of interest in the
>>> : > city for which I work. So I've been visiting a variety of locations, some of
>>> : > them pretty obscure, that I've never seen before. For me the assignment
>>> : > functions as the pin. �;^)
>>> :
>>> : That is a liberal interpretation of the mandate.
>>> :
>>> : Those are points of "interest", not random points. �I think the point
>>> : of the mandate is to try to take interesting pictures at uninteresting
>>> : (random) locations.
>>>
>>> A few observations on that:
>>>
>>> - �Some of those "points of interest" are not, in themselves, particularly
>>> interesting. The challenge is to go there and find a shot that makes the site
>>> as interesting as it can be. Whether the site was chosen at random or by some
>>> other method that's effectively beyond the photographer's control is not that
>>> relevant, arguably.
>>>
>>> - �By their nature, SI mandates favor those in the group who are retired or
>>> otherwise blessed with a lot of free time over those of us who are not. In my
>>> case it's often find a way to incorporate the mandate into my normal
>>> activities or sit this month out. And I have sat out several mandates because
>>> I simply didn't have the time to get involved in a type of photography that I
>>> normally don't do.
>>>
>>> - �An overly narrow interpretation of the mandate lessens participation and
>>> reduces everyne's enjoyment of the process. I'd claim that the recent
>>> Wallpaper mandate is a case in point. While some very nice pictures were
>>> submitted, participation was much lower than I would have anticipated, with
>>> several highly competent regulars absent. I suspect that two factors were
>>> primarily to blame: (1) The required aspect ratio accommodated a screen shape
>>> that many of us rarely see, forcing us to omit or modify pictures that we were
>>> actually using as wallpapers; and (2) Several people had weighed in with their
>>> idiosyncratic opinions on what constituted a good (or even acceptable)
>>> wallpaper, effectively narrowing the mandate and practically assuring that
>>> some entries would be dismissed or ridiculed for not meeting those criteria.
>>>
>>> The Shoot-In's strength is its inclusiveness, and the point of a mandate
>>> shouldn't be to exclude those who have trouble meeting it. Rather it should be
>>> to challenge participants to take a broader view of their photographic
>>> horizons and to use the mandate to see their work in a different light. I
>>> think Bowser understands that and usually allows a broad interpretation of the
>>> mandates he issues. I believe the only time I've ever seen him reject a
>>> picture was when it was too big.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>
>>I don't mean to be judgemental, but do you guys golf or fish? :-)
>>
>>Since it is not any kind of real competition, I won't raise any more
>>stink. But maybe people should indicate how closely they followed the
>>rules when they submit.
>
>If you follow the comments after the Shoot-In is made available, many
>people provide information about how they got the shot.
>>
>>As for someone saying the pin would have put them in a bad
>>neighborhood, hey at least there might have been something interesting
>>to shoot there. Better than the housing development or empty field
>>that I ended up with. But maybe I should just keep sticking more
>>pins.
>
>I made that comment. Most of what I shoot is candid "street"
>photography. I do a lot of shooting in not-so-nice neighborhoods.
>
>However, there are neighborhoods where I'm not welcome. I know these
>neighborhoods, and I know when not to be intrusive and when not to go
>into an area where there might be trouble. I can get away with taking
>candids in some situations, but it's not a good thing to walk into a
>project and start snapping photos. The more people around, the more
>likely it is that someone will object. When one person objects, the
>crowd follows.
>
>This was taken not far from the pin, but in an area not so crowded. I
>took prints of this picture to the two players a few days later, and
>several other people wanted their photo taken. I'm now welcome in
>this area.
>
>http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/Sports/sports/Sports-Checkers-TonyCooper/717655592_edxmV-XL.jpg

Had your DSLR in P&S mode did you? I don't see one photo there that
couldn't be taken with a superzoom P&S camera just as well with the same or
better image quality and with far less hassle.

What a waste of money in the wrong hands.

From: RichB on
On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 00:47:58 -0700, NGBarfart <ngbarfart(a)ngflatulence.net>
wrote:

<crickets chirping>

Hmm.... I could have sworn I heard the piggy squeals of a basement-life
pretend-photographer roll-playing troll that has never posted even one
photo to any newsgroup ....

I guess not. Must have been my imagination. Oh well ....

From: MothboyHunter on
In article <neo536h51hbvf4igkrtqfdksfuko92h3il(a)4ax.com>,
RichB <richardb(a)plaxton.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 00:47:58 -0700, NGBarfart <ngbarfart(a)ngflatulence.net>
> wrote:
>
> <crickets chirping>
>
> Hmm.... I could have sworn I heard the piggy squeals of a basement-life
> pretend-photographer roll-playing troll that has never posted even one
> photo to any newsgroup ....
>
> I guess not. Must have been my imagination. Oh well ....

So you have some porcine company along with those moths.

Your aren't the only one who can play the nymshift game, so you have no
idea for what I have, or have not posted.

I am just going to play you for all you are worth, and that isn't much.
--
Just another troll hunter.
From: Better Info on
On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 01:19:09 -0700, MothboyHunter
<mothboyhunter(a)mothboyhunter.org> wrote:

<crickets chirping>

Hmm.... I could have sworn I heard the piggy squeals of a basement-life
pretend-photographer roll-playing troll that has never posted even one
photo to any newsgroup ....

I guess not. Must have been my imagination. Oh well ....
From: RichB on
On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 01:19:09 -0700, MothboyHunter
<mothboyhunter(a)mothboyhunter.org> wrote:

<crickets chirping>

Hmm.... I could have sworn I heard the piggy squeals of a basement-life
pretend-photographer roll-playing troll that has never posted even one
photo to any newsgroup ....

I guess not. Must have been my imagination. Oh well ....