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From: Rick Balkins on 15 Oct 2006 08:23 "Dragos" <mgladson(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:1160603246.433208.326360(a)h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > First you say to wait for your project, then you say your not going to > be selling them. well, that i believe, you cant sell something that > you'll never finish. you do seem to have wildstar conviced, but thats > not too hard. > > More vaporcrap, more hype, more BS. He may make a small number (assemble it for you) but he doesn't want to be stuck in a position where he has to be running a business selling this product. Basically, if you know how to solder, good. Then you can easily have the PCB made and parts ordered and build it. However, he doesn't want to be spending 8hrs a day, 40 hrs a week making these units and selling them to people. If someone wants to produce them, then feel free. Just wait til the prototype is done. Hey, Jeri didn't produce the 300 C-Ones. Basically, Jens did. She made the prototype and design. It is like Jim Brain's designs. I'm sure a7yvm, may not mind making completed and fully assembled units for a small number of people. That's the idea. He basically doesn't want to be caught up with 100s of orders. > a7yvm109gf5d1(a)netzero.com wrote: >> JohnH. wrote: >> > > 2200$ US. You sure you can't wait a bit for my project? >> > >> > Holly cow!!! The solution is worth about $100US, maybe $120US to me. >> > I have not heard back from the U.S. distributer yet. I can't believe >> > anybody would pay $2,200US to convert a video signal. You could >> > obviously buy a new monitor for far cheaper. >> > >> > Is the goal og you RGBI-to-VGA project to produce a comercially >> > sellable product, or to produce a design that others can work from to >> > build it themsleves? >> > >> > John >> >> I just called the number from the website you got the datasheets from. >> Maybe I misunderstood the amount, but the sales guy proposed a lower >> cost device for 500$. He said he would email info to me. >> >> My project is just for myself. I never intended to sell any since the >> interest was so low. At best, I was going to release the schematics and >> the Olimex work order number to get your own PCB and then you can build >> it yourself. This depends on your skill level and what tools you have, >> of course. Most parts can be had at Digikey and the other parts I can >> order through work since they need the old-school distributor/purchase >> order thing. Programmed PICs I can supply. >> >> If my tests on the genlock chip suceed, I can write some more code to >> configure the main IC and maybe start seeing some VGA signals soon. >> This is just a hobby for me though, so if I get drunk this weekend, >> nothing will get done, again... >> >> You seem to have a fairly urgent need of such a device. (BTW CGA and >> RGBI should be the same thing, but the IBM CGA monitor did some tricks >> to the brown/dark yellow color that I'm still not sure the C= monitors >> did. At worst, you'll have one color from the 128 not look exactly >> right.) >> >> I think the high cost of their device reflects the amount of work >> required to get such a thing working and the small market for one. You >> can get NTSC to VGA boxes for less than a 100$ cdn. >
From: Rick Balkins on 15 Oct 2006 08:30 I'm sure that you may make or assemble a couple of units here and there for a small number of people but you don't want to be caught up into a situation where you are dealing with 100s of orders. So the idea, is that you don't want to be IN the BUSINESS of manufacturing and assembling and selling RGBI2VGA converters. You design a prototype and provide the designs and information for free and may manufacture and assemble units for a person here or there at your own personal discretion. That was the idea that I had got and I feel that is what you are aiming at. <a7yvm109gf5d1(a)netzero.com> wrote in message news:1160669048.646003.234440(a)k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Dragos wrote: >> First you say to wait for your project, then you say your not going to >> be selling them. well, that i believe, you cant sell something that >> you'll never finish. you do seem to have wildstar conviced, but thats >> not too hard. >> > > Sure, but I never promised to make a commercial product that I'd sell, > did I? Can you find the post where I said I would? > >> More vaporcrap, more hype, more BS. > > Hmm, I have pictures of a PCB being stuffed with parts on my website. > Did you look at them? Did you email me when I asked for people to email > their interest? > > Did you know I have recovered a video clock from the Hsync signal? Did > you know that's a crucial step and it looks like it works? Did you know > I spent a few hundred dollars out of pocket already to buy a PCB, > parts, an enclosure, a PICSTART upgrade module and the HP event > counter? That I have thousands of dollars of test equipment like a > sampling scope and a spectrum analyzer? That I'm doing this for free > and will release the code, schematics and gerbers as soon as I'm > satisfied it's a decent circuit? > > It's a HOBBY. I work on it a few hours here, a few hours there. I work > in electronics, at the end of the day I don't want MORE electronics, > you know? >
From: a7yvm109gf5d1 on 16 Oct 2006 15:27
Rick Balkins wrote: > I'm sure that you may make or assemble a couple of units here and there for > a small number of people but you don't want to be caught up into a situation > where you are dealing with 100s of orders. > > So the idea, is that you don't want to be IN the BUSINESS of manufacturing > and assembling and selling RGBI2VGA converters. You design a prototype and > provide the designs and information for free and may manufacture and > assemble units for a person here or there at your own personal discretion. I don't have the time to run a business out of my home. The costs of having PCBs assembled are tremendous and I'd have to pass that on. This is why my design is very simple, so I could build one or two, and others can build their own. No fancy parts, no tiny SMT parts below SOIC8 or 0603 parts. > > That was the idea that I had got and I feel that is what you are aiming at. > Thanks Rick, I didn't think my position was that hard to understand. The reason I started this project is because not a single solution out there would work. The 2200$ solution is a hallucination IMHO. BTW I am getting some signals out of the chip but they're not usable yet. |