From: Sam Wormley on
kenseto(a)erinet.com wrote:

>
> I challenge you to calculate the gravitational time dilation using SR/
> GR when you are given the measured data of Faa and Fab.
>
> Ken Seto
>

I gave you the input parameters for GR, now you give the measured
data for Faa and Fab. Fair is Fair!
From: Sam Wormley on
kenseto(a)erinet.com wrote:
> On Nov 5, 12:57 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)mchsi.com> wrote:
>> kenseto wrote:
>>> A paper entitled "Proposed and Past Experiments Detecting Absolute
>>> Motion" is availble in the following link:
>>> http://www.geocities.com/kn_seto/2008experiment.pdf
>>> This paper describes proposed new and doable experiments to detect
>>> absolute motion. Also the results of past experiments such as the
>>> Photoelectric Experiment and the Double Slit Experiment are explained
>>> by absolute motion.
>>> Ken Seto
>> Notice what happens to A and B, Ken!
>> http://xkcd.com/265/
>
> Wormy you are loosing it I urge that you go see a doctor immediately.
> There is no mutual time dilation. When comparing two clocks: if A's
> clock is running fast compared to B's clock then B's clock is running
> slow compared to A's clock.
>
> Ken Seto


That implies that A and B are not the same, violating the Copernican
Principle among other things!

From: Sam Wormley on
kenseto(a)erinet.com wrote:
> On Nov 5, 12:57 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)mchsi.com> wrote:

>> Notice what happens to A and B, Ken!
>> http://xkcd.com/265/
>
> Wormy you are loosing it I urge that you go see a doctor immediately.
> There is no mutual time dilation. When comparing two clocks: if A's
> clock is running fast compared to B's clock then B's clock is running
> slow compared to A's clock.
>
> Ken Seto

I've tried to clarify the language below for you, Seto, so that
you will see neither A or B is preferred or special in any way.

Assume that A and B have identical atomic clocks. That means they
tick at the same rate. Now let us suppose that A and B have relative
motion, such that their velocity with respect to each other, v > 0,
and that dv/dt = 0 .

Disregarding any Doppler shift, A measures B's time dilation as
∆t_B' = γ ∆t_B

and B measures A's time dilation as
∆t_A' = γ ∆t_A

where ∆t represent a time interval, v is the relative velocity
between A and B, and γ = 1/√(1-v^2/c^2) .
From: kenseto on
On Nov 6, 1:51 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)mchsi.com> wrote:
> kens...(a)erinet.com wrote:
> > On Nov 5, 12:57 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)mchsi.com> wrote:
> >> kenseto wrote:
> >>> A paper entitled "Proposed and Past Experiments Detecting Absolute
> >>> Motion" is availble in the following link:
> >>>http://www.geocities.com/kn_seto/2008experiment.pdf
> >>> This paper describes proposed new and doable experiments to detect
> >>> absolute motion. Also the results of past experiments such as the
> >>> Photoelectric Experiment and the Double Slit Experiment are explained
> >>> by absolute motion.
> >>> Ken Seto
> >>    Notice what happens to A and B, Ken!
> >>      http://xkcd.com/265/
>
> > Wormy you are loosing it I urge that you go see a doctor immediately.
> > There is no mutual time dilation. When comparing two clocks: if A's
> > clock is running fast compared to B's clock then B's clock is running
> > slow compared to A's clock.
>
> > Ken Seto
>
>    That implies that A and B are not the same, violating the Copernican
>    Principle among other things!

What is Copernican Principle???? BTW what I said doen't violate
anything.


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From: PD on
On Nov 6, 2:19 pm, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote:

>
> What is Copernican Principle???? BTW what I said doen't violate
> anything.

Closely related to the knee-jerk reflex commonly tested in family
doctors' offices, the Seto-jerk response is to say, "What I said
doesn't violate XXXX. What is XXXX?"

Seto's mouth is now incapable of forming the word "oops".