From: Mr.T on

"Swampfox" <noidea(a)whocares.com> wrote in message
news:4c227feb$0$1030$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au...
> >>> AND the existing Optus fibre cable in Melbourne and Sydney.
> >>
> >> Except that the Optus fibre optic cable doesn't run to houses, the
> >> one you see in the street is coax.
> >
> > Fibre to the node, just like Telstra.
>
> But the NBN will be fibre to the house, so it's apples and oranges.

The claim to which I replied was Telstra already has a fibre cable in the
major cities, so it's actually apples and apples.

In any case we will have to wait and see whether we get fibre to the home,
or more fibre to the node. You can bet the politicians don't understand the
difference, and they are not saying anyway.

MrT.


From: Swampfox on
Mr.T wrote:
> "Swampfox" <noidea(a)whocares.com> wrote in message
> news:4c227feb$0$1030$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>>> AND the existing Optus fibre cable in Melbourne and Sydney.
>>>>
>>>> Except that the Optus fibre optic cable doesn't run to houses, the
>>>> one you see in the street is coax.
>>>
>>> Fibre to the node, just like Telstra.
>>
>> But the NBN will be fibre to the house, so it's apples and oranges.
>
> The claim to which I replied was Telstra already has a fibre cable in
> the major cities, so it's actually apples and apples.
>
> In any case we will have to wait and see whether we get fibre to the
> home, or more fibre to the node. You can bet the politicians don't
> understand the difference, and they are not saying anyway.
>
> MrT.

We need to hope that Conroy is taking expert advice, which he surely is, in
any case it won't happen at all if there's a change of government which is
looking more likely by the day.
In my opinion the NBN is a good idea in principle but bad in practice, by
the time it's built we could see wireless technology approaching similar
speeds and $40 Bil. is a hell of a lot of cash, fibre won't be redundant
technology any time soon but inevitably it will be, ask Telstra shareholders
how fast their millions of k's of copper is depreciating.


From: Rod Speed on
Mr.T wrote:
> "Swampfox" <noidea(a)whocares.com> wrote in message
> news:4c227feb$0$1030$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>>> AND the existing Optus fibre cable in Melbourne and Sydney.
>>>>
>>>> Except that the Optus fibre optic cable doesn't run to houses, the
>>>> one you see in the street is coax.
>>>
>>> Fibre to the node, just like Telstra.
>>
>> But the NBN will be fibre to the house, so it's apples and oranges.
>
> The claim to which I replied was Telstra already has a fibre cable in
> the major cities, so it's actually apples and apples.
>
> In any case we will have to wait and see whether we get fibre to the home, or more fibre to the node.

Nope, the NBN is FTTP.

> You can bet the politicians don't understand the difference,

They aint the ones building the NBN.

> and they are not saying anyway.

It never matters what they say.


From: SG1 on

"Swampfox" <noidea(a)whocares.com> wrote in message
news:4c2293d2$0$1030$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au...
> Mr.T wrote:
>> "Swampfox" <noidea(a)whocares.com> wrote in message
>> news:4c227feb$0$1030$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>>>> AND the existing Optus fibre cable in Melbourne and Sydney.
>>>>>
>>>>> Except that the Optus fibre optic cable doesn't run to houses, the
>>>>> one you see in the street is coax.
>>>>
>>>> Fibre to the node, just like Telstra.
>>>
>>> But the NBN will be fibre to the house, so it's apples and oranges.
>>
>> The claim to which I replied was Telstra already has a fibre cable in
>> the major cities, so it's actually apples and apples.
>>
>> In any case we will have to wait and see whether we get fibre to the
>> home, or more fibre to the node. You can bet the politicians don't
>> understand the difference, and they are not saying anyway.
>>
>> MrT.
>
> We need to hope that Conroy is taking expert advice, which he surely is,
> in any case it won't happen at all if there's a change of government which
> is looking more likely by the day.
> In my opinion the NBN is a good idea in principle but bad in practice, by
> the time it's built we could see wireless technology approaching similar
> speeds and $40 Bil. is a hell of a lot of cash, fibre won't be redundant
> technology any time soon but inevitably it will be, ask Telstra
> shareholders how fast their millions of k's of copper is depreciating.

The Nasal Drone Government is now in power. Long live the DUDD. Now if only
we can get rid of Roddles.......

>
>


From: Rod Speed on
Swampfox wrote:
> Mr.T wrote:
>> "Swampfox" <noidea(a)whocares.com> wrote in message
>> news:4c227feb$0$1030$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>>>> AND the existing Optus fibre cable in Melbourne and Sydney.
>>>>>
>>>>> Except that the Optus fibre optic cable doesn't run to houses, the
>>>>> one you see in the street is coax.
>>>>
>>>> Fibre to the node, just like Telstra.
>>>
>>> But the NBN will be fibre to the house, so it's apples and oranges.
>>
>> The claim to which I replied was Telstra already has a fibre cable in
>> the major cities, so it's actually apples and apples.
>>
>> In any case we will have to wait and see whether we get fibre to the
>> home, or more fibre to the node. You can bet the politicians don't
>> understand the difference, and they are not saying anyway.

> We need to hope that Conroy is taking expert advice, which he surely
> is, in any case it won't happen at all if there's a change of
> government which is looking more likely by the day.

After just having predicted that there was no chance that Gillard would
get to be PM, it will be fascinating to see what the voters do now.

> In my opinion the NBN is a good idea in principle

Not in mine, MUCH too much money when most have decent broadband available.

Plenty better things to spend $45B on.

> but bad in practice,

It never made sense.

> by the time it's built we could see wireless technology approaching similar speeds

It will never get within a bulls roar of what fibre can do, and suffers
from the very fundamental problem with shared bandwidth too.

> and $40 Bil. is a hell of a lot of cash,

Yes, much better things to spend that sort of money on, like hospitals etc.

> fibre won't be redundant technology any time soon

Ever in fact.

> but inevitably it will be,

Nope.

> ask Telstra shareholders how fast their millions of k's of > copper is depreciating.

Its nothing like fibre.


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