From: Greg Hennessy on
On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 10:16:24 +0100, Adrian C <email(a)here.invalid> wrote:

>On 10/07/2010 09:18, Chink Chonk wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 09:05:28 +0100, Adrian C quote:
>>
>>> Reality: Which ends up costing more ...
>>
>> Long term - Windows. No excuse not to train the next generation of kids
>> in Linux using Linux. Support problem resolves itself within a few years.
>
>OK, show me end user CBT for Linux. And, oh, as it's Linux. Show me it
>available for free.
>
>(serious question)

You'll be waiting a long time methinks......
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From: spike1 on
And so it was that in the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.advocacy, Hadron <hadronquark(a)gmail.com> uttered the following pearls of wisdom:
> Listen kid, when you've been out there and worked in real companies for
> an appreciable time after your "degree" that you keep flaunting then you
> can comment....


Ahhh right, the DEGREE (no quotes necessary) that I only ever physically
mention when you bring up the subject, but you can't seem to stop fixating
on? The degree that I graduated from 10 *YEARS* ago?

One final time... I am not changing my sig because a fuckwit like you keeps
carping on about it incessantly.

> The cost of OS licensing is minuscule compared to salaries,
> infrastructure etc etc etc.

It's not just the OS though is it, it's microsoft office and other crud too,
ISN'T IT?

OK, they may require some custom software for various things, that's part of
the migration cost. HENCE THE SHORT TERM LINUX IS MORE EXPENSIVE BIT!

LONG TERM, IT IS NOT BECAUSE THERE *IS* NO MORE NEED TO DO THOSE EXPENSIVE
UPGRADES!

> The sad fact is that its not easy to migrate to Linux for huge
> businesses.

No-one said it was easy.
Doesn't mean it's not worth it though.
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From: Chris Ahlstrom on
Greg Hennessy stopped playing his vuvuzela long enough to say:

> On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 10:16:24 +0100, Adrian C <email(a)here.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On 10/07/2010 09:18, Chink Chonk wrote:
>>> On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 09:05:28 +0100, Adrian C quote:
>>>
>>>> Reality: Which ends up costing more ...
>>>
>>> Long term - Windows. No excuse not to train the next generation of kids
>>> in Linux using Linux. Support problem resolves itself within a few years.
>>
>>OK, show me end user CBT for Linux. And, oh, as it's Linux. Show me it
>>available for free.
>>
>>(serious question)
>
> You'll be waiting a long time methinks......

Depends. If you belong to the IEEE you can get a shitload of CBT for
all sorts of topics, including Windows and Linux topics.

As for the free part, Linux is all over the place for free. Silly to think
otherwise.

Knowledge? Now *that* will cost you, in sweat equity, brother.

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From: Chris Ahlstrom on
Hadron stopped playing his vuvuzela long enough to say:

> You are aware that most of the best OSS for the office runs on Windows too
> right?
>
> Listen kid, when you've been out there and worked in real companies for
> an appreciable time after your "degree" that you keep flaunting then you
> can comment.... I can only assume you're recently graduated as most of
> us with degrees stopped being proud of it about a week after Uni.
>
> The cost of OS licensing is minuscule compared to salaries,
> infrastructure etc etc etc.
>
> The sad fact is that its not easy to migrate to Linux for huge
> businesses.
>
> Its ok for you to play bubble bobble or whatever that junky game is at
> home when you come back from your Windows job. But its not trivial to
> port all existing apps and data from Windows to Linux unless they go to
> the additional pain of running Windows in VMWare or somethin - more cost
> and effort.

Pompous windbag.

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From: spike1 on
And so it was that in the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.advocacy, jasee <jasee(a)btinternet.com> uttered the following pearls of wisdom:
>> Also, they will no longer be on the hardware upgrade treadmill in order to
>> be ABLE to use the latest microsoft pap.
>
> But will their new hardware work with Linux?

1: most likely, yes. If they did their homework first, definitely yes.
2: why would they need new hardware?
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