Wine and Mandriva
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From: freemont on 3 Jan 2006 11:13 On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 15:26:04 +0000, Krister Hallergard wrote: > freemont wrote: >> On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 14:53:06 +0000, Krister Hallergard wrote: >> >> >>>BillM wrote: >>> >>>>Krister Hallergard wrote: >>>> >>>><snip> >>>> >>>>>To abandon Windows XP I do need to be able to access my old wk4-files. >>>>>Actually did get Lotus 123 from SmartSuite 97 to work with Fedora, but >>>>>not in a stable way, so I went for Excel 97, which works perfectly and >>>>>has filters for wk4-files, using winetools to install. But not with >>>>>Mandriva. >>>> >>>><snip> >>>> >>>>Did you look at OpenOffice.org - calc (version 2.0)? It is available >>>>for Windows and Linux at the cost of the CD's from Linux Central or >>>>CheapBytes -- or free if you download it yourself. It is very >>>>compatible for reading and/or writing *.xls (95 thru XP) It will also >>>>read/write files in Star Office and the new "Open File format" >>>> http://www.openoffice.org/ >>> >>>Thanks Bill, yes I like OpenOffice very much, for creating new spread >>>sheets. But as far as I know you cannot open *.wk4-files, as there are >>>no filters for that. I have 20 years of Lotus spread sheets, that I >>>sometimes need to go back to. >> >> >> You should be able to convert the wk4 stuff into Excel format from >> within Windows, then go from there. Excel 97 includes this converter. >> > Exactly, but I cannot start Excel with Mandriva. So maybe I should forget > about Mandriva and use SuS2 10.0 for the future, as this works. I kind of > liked Mandriva though. (oh, did you mean converting all my *.wk4 files to > *.xls files - sure, but then I may as well stay with XP) What I mean is: from a Windows installation- ANY Windows installation- convert the wk4 files to a format that OO can work with, namely, Excel format. Then transfer the converted files to your Linux installation. Or am I missing something here?? (Certainly not beyond the pale) -- "Because all you of Earth are idiots!" ?`?.??.???`?-> freemont? <-???`?.??.???
From: Krister Hallergard on 3 Jan 2006 13:56 freemont wrote: > On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 15:26:04 +0000, Krister Hallergard wrote: > > >>freemont wrote: >> >>>On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 14:53:06 +0000, Krister Hallergard wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>BillM wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Krister Hallergard wrote: >>>>> >>>>><snip> >>>>> >>>>>>To abandon Windows XP I do need to be able to access my old wk4-files. >>>>>>Actually did get Lotus 123 from SmartSuite 97 to work with Fedora, but >>>>>>not in a stable way, so I went for Excel 97, which works perfectly and >>>>>>has filters for wk4-files, using winetools to install. But not with >>>>>>Mandriva. >>>>> >>>>><snip> >>>>> >>>>>Did you look at OpenOffice.org - calc (version 2.0)? It is available >>>>>for Windows and Linux at the cost of the CD's from Linux Central or >>>>>CheapBytes -- or free if you download it yourself. It is very >>>>>compatible for reading and/or writing *.xls (95 thru XP) It will also >>>>>read/write files in Star Office and the new "Open File format" >>>>>http://www.openoffice.org/ >>>> >>>>Thanks Bill, yes I like OpenOffice very much, for creating new spread >>>>sheets. But as far as I know you cannot open *.wk4-files, as there are >>>>no filters for that. I have 20 years of Lotus spread sheets, that I >>>>sometimes need to go back to. >>> >>> >>>You should be able to convert the wk4 stuff into Excel format from >>>within Windows, then go from there. Excel 97 includes this converter. >>> >> >>Exactly, but I cannot start Excel with Mandriva. So maybe I should forget >>about Mandriva and use SuS2 10.0 for the future, as this works. I kind of >>liked Mandriva though. (oh, did you mean converting all my *.wk4 files to >>*.xls files - sure, but then I may as well stay with XP) > > > What I mean is: from a Windows installation- ANY Windows installation- > convert the wk4 files to a format that OO can work with, namely, Excel > format. Then transfer the converted files to your Linux installation. Or > am I missing something here?? (Certainly not beyond the pale) > It is just that I don?t want the work of converting several hundreds of wk4-files, which are presently residing on the XP-partition (Fat32). Using the SuSE partition I can access these wk4-files with wine/Excel and if I want to also save them in the wk4 format. I would have liked to to the same from the Mandriva partition. Thanks
From: BillM on 3 Jan 2006 13:58 Krister Hallergard wrote: <snip> > yes I like OpenOffice very much, for creating new spread >>>sheets. But as far as I know you cannot open *.wk4-files, as >>>there are no filters for that. I have 20 years of Lotus >>>spread sheets, that I sometimes need to go back to. >> >> You should be able to convert the wk4 stuff into Excel format >> from within Windows, then go from there. Excel 97 includes >> this converter. >> > Exactly, but I cannot start Excel with Mandriva. So maybe I > should forget about Mandriva and use SuS2 10.0 for the future, > as this works. I believe that you are using the wrong program, instead of Wine, Crossover (or is it Crossover Office) that is specifically tuned to Microsoft Office. http://www.codeweavers.com/ > I kind of liked Mandriva though. (oh, did you mean converting > all my *.wk4 files to *.xls files - sure, but then I may as > well stay with XP) After OO.o 2.0 came out I converted about 125 (1997 to 2004) spreadsheet pages from Messa/2 (OS/2) -> *.XLS -> to OpenOffice in order to continue to use them. -- BillM
From: mayayana on 3 Jan 2006 14:01 > Exactly, but I cannot start Excel with Mandriva. So maybe I should > forget about Mandriva and use SuS2 10.0 for the future, as this works. > I kind of liked Mandriva though. (oh, did you mean converting all my > *.wk4 files to *.xls files - sure, but then I may as well stay with XP) I don't have an answer but I have been running into similar trouble. I had Wine.9.3 going on Mandrake 10.0, and now I've got .9.4 going without any hold-ups on Suse10. But so far I haven't even managed to get ..9.4 to install on Mandriva 2006.
From: freemont on 3 Jan 2006 16:28
On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 18:56:13 +0000, Krister Hallergard wrote: > freemont wrote: >> On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 15:26:04 +0000, Krister Hallergard wrote: >> >> >>>freemont wrote: >>> >>>>On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 14:53:06 +0000, Krister Hallergard wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>BillM wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Krister Hallergard wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>><snip> >>>>>> >>>>>>>To abandon Windows XP I do need to be able to access my old >>>>>>>wk4-files. Actually did get Lotus 123 from SmartSuite 97 to work >>>>>>>with Fedora, but not in a stable way, so I went for Excel 97, which >>>>>>>works perfectly and has filters for wk4-files, using winetools to >>>>>>>install. But not with Mandriva. >>>>>> >>>>>><snip> >>>>>> >>>>>>Did you look at OpenOffice.org - calc (version 2.0)? It is available >>>>>>for Windows and Linux at the cost of the CD's from Linux Central or >>>>>>CheapBytes -- or free if you download it yourself. It is very >>>>>>compatible for reading and/or writing *.xls (95 thru XP) It will >>>>>>also read/write files in Star Office and the new "Open File format" >>>>>>http://www.openoffice.org/ >>>>> >>>>>Thanks Bill, yes I like OpenOffice very much, for creating new spread >>>>>sheets. But as far as I know you cannot open *.wk4-files, as there >>>>>are no filters for that. I have 20 years of Lotus spread sheets, >>>>>that I sometimes need to go back to. >>>> >>>> >>>>You should be able to convert the wk4 stuff into Excel format from >>>>within Windows, then go from there. Excel 97 includes this converter. >>>> >>>> >>>Exactly, but I cannot start Excel with Mandriva. So maybe I should >>>forget about Mandriva and use SuS2 10.0 for the future, as this works. >>>I kind of liked Mandriva though. (oh, did you mean converting all my >>>*.wk4 files to *.xls files - sure, but then I may as well stay with XP) >> >> >> What I mean is: from a Windows installation- ANY Windows installation- >> convert the wk4 files to a format that OO can work with, namely, Excel >> format. Then transfer the converted files to your Linux installation. >> Or am I missing something here?? (Certainly not beyond the pale) >> > It is just that I don?t want the work of converting several hundreds of > wk4-files, which are presently residing on the XP-partition (Fat32). > Using the SuSE partition I can access these wk4-files with wine/Excel > and if I want to also save them in the wk4 format. I would have liked > to to the same from the Mandriva partition. Thanks Oh, well, I was under the impression you wanted to be rid of ALL Microsoft's stuff, not just XP. I read too much into your post. Personally, it'd be worth the trouble to me, just to be able to not depend on XP, MS Office, Wine, anything like that. Make these files into a format that Linux and OO can work with natively, and your dependence on Windows stuff and wrappers like Wine will go away. Besides, I thought that the converter was a batch converter- set it and forget it. Anyway, sorry I couldn't help. -- "Because all you of Earth are idiots!" ?`?.??.???`?-> freemont? <-???`?.??.??? |