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From: Jenn on 9 Jan 2010 22:02 High Plains Thumper wrote: > Jenn wrote: >> Conor wrote: >>> 7 says... >>> >>>> All the excuses don't compare with rock steady cost saving >>>> Linux. >>> >>> <snigger> Linux - free if your time is worthless. If Linux is so >>> good, how come Windows 7 got 5 times the market share in 1/40th the >>> time it took Linux to get to 1%? >> >> ... because Windows is geared toward the general pc user, which is a >> bigger market than Linux users. Market share has no bearing on >> whether a system is better than another. They are totally different >> markets altogether. > > Linux can also be for the general PC user, except for Microsoft > monopoly maintenance: > > [quote] > In contrast to the RPFJ, a meaningful remedy must account for the > fact that Microsoft manipulates interface information in a > variety of ways to preclude competition. Although too numerous to > recount, Microsoft's tactics include: <snip> It makes sense that Microsoft operates in it's own best interests in order to promote their product and discourage the use of competitor products. Every business vies for marketshare.. Windows just happens to be more user friendly to the general pc user upping it's market share in that particular category. -- Jenn (from Oklahoma)
From: Phil Stovell on 10 Jan 2010 01:33 On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 21:33:28 +0000, Conor wrote: > In article <No32n.24084$Ym4.11961(a)text.news.virginmedia.com>, 7 says... > >> All the excuses don't compare with rock steady cost saving Linux. > > <snigger> > Linux - free if your time is worthless. > > If Linux is so good, how come Windows 7 got 5 times the market share in > 1/40th the time it took Linux to get to 1%? Because retailers don't make money off free software so have no incentive to put it on their PCs. Free software isn't advertised and free software isn't included in the trial bloatware that infests new PCs. I always advise people to remove the crud that comes with their PC and to install things like Avast and OpenOffice.
From: unruh on 10 Jan 2010 02:59 ["Followup-To:" header set to uk.comp.os.linux.] On 2010-01-10, Jenn <nope(a)noway.com> wrote: > High Plains Thumper wrote: >> Jenn wrote: >>> Conor wrote: >>>> 7 says... >>>> >>>>> All the excuses don't compare with rock steady cost saving >>>>> Linux. >>>> >>>> <snigger> Linux - free if your time is worthless. If Linux is so >>>> good, how come Windows 7 got 5 times the market share in 1/40th the >>>> time it took Linux to get to 1%? >>> >>> ... because Windows is geared toward the general pc user, which is a >>> bigger market than Linux users. Market share has no bearing on >>> whether a system is better than another. They are totally different >>> markets altogether. >> >> Linux can also be for the general PC user, except for Microsoft >> monopoly maintenance: >> >> [quote] >> In contrast to the RPFJ, a meaningful remedy must account for the >> fact that Microsoft manipulates interface information in a >> variety of ways to preclude competition. Although too numerous to >> recount, Microsoft's tactics include: ><snip> > > It makes sense that Microsoft operates in it's own best interests in order > to promote their product and discourage the use of competitor products. Microsoft was found by a variety of courts to be a monopoly, and as such it has a legal duty to ensure that its operating system allow competition. Making its operating system operate so as to "discourage the use of competitor products" is illegal. The remedy ( for example breaking up MS into a OS and an applications company, so that the applications were in direct competition) was short circuited in the US by political consderations. (When Bush entered the White House, the Federal prosecutors, who had won, withdrew before sanctions could be pronounced by the courts). In Europe, MS was found to have abused its monopoly and forced to pay a fine. > > Every business vies for marketshare.. Windows just happens to be more user > friendly to the general pc user upping it's market share in that particular > category. Windows also uses its monopoly position to engage in anticompetive practices. It is like the old ATT, when they discouraged anyone else from entering the phone market to preserve their monopoly. They were also keeping their marketshare by illegal activities. In that case politics did not short circuit the legal actions, and we now have highly competitive phone and internet services, something we would not have had had ATT been treated as Microsoft was. ATT also claimed that they offered superior services.
From: Kadaitcha Man on 10 Jan 2010 05:00 Some stumbling bacterium named "unruh" ejaculated: > ["Followup-To:" header set to uk.comp.os.linux.] Put back, and groups list extended. -- Test signature Dinner tonight: Festering cadaver foreskins and apple garnish smothered in cooked enough live rat embryos and tendon vinegar, simmered in a chilled pannikin stuffed with expensive medley of bologna and cooked corn in putrescent intestine gravy, a side of parsley and a bottle of sewage.
From: Mike Tomlinson on 10 Jan 2010 05:57
In article <MPG.25b30686e86bb707989b47(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Conor <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> writes >If Linux is so good, how come Windows 7 got 5 times the market share in >1/40th the time it took Linux to get to 1%? Because it's pre-installed on 99% of new PCs sold. And the sheep don't know whether it's any good, so they go with the status quo. Signs of this changing though: <http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2010/01/05/aduc_to_file_windows_class_ action_compensation/> -- (\__/) (='.'=) Bunny says Windows 7 is Vi$ta reloaded. (")_(") http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/windows_7.png |