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From: CJB on 7 May 2010 17:21 Thank you .... !! Hot-text wrote: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FrontPage_Dynamic_Web_Template > > > > "CJB" <chrisjbrady(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:2800e369-6cc9-480f-be47-b67362d1338c(a)a21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... > > On May 6, 2:31 am, "Tina Clarke" <TinaCla...(a)any-expression.com> > > wrote: > >> > Thanks - that's encouraging. I have just downloaded SPD - soent all > >> > afternoon in Pret on The Cloud (for free!!). Have to try importing my > >> > FP site into it. But I'm wondering how to retain the FP theme? It uses > >> > style sheets, and a bunch of graphics (for the background and bullet > >> > points). And I'm wondering how the page and graphics links will remain > >> > connected. But I don't have shared boarders thankfully. CJB. > >> > >> Don't import > >> > >> open fp > >> backup your sitehttp://accessfp.net/backupfp.htm > >> > >> then open expression web or sharepoint designer 2007 and browse to the > >> location of your web .... select it and open it .. > >> > >> it really is that simple... that way you have all you should have no half > >> measure like with inporting which can and will miss things. > >> > >> make sure you set up sharepoint designer 2007 or expression web .. with > >> sp07 > >> choose the ew 1 ebook > >> Setting up Expression Web Ebook ( > >> Free )http://any-expression.com/expression-web/ebooks/setting-up-expression... > >> > >> if you want some free well coded validating templates to play with (spd > >> 07 > >> does not have any - and the ew one's leave something to be desired) then > >> pop > >> along tohttp://www.frontpage-to-expression.com/site-templates/where there > >> are 17 different layouts which will can be made available from within the > >> prog itself.. they are dwts with basic pages and there are tutorials to > >> help > >> even if you dont use them its good to practice with. > >> > >> This tutorial will help you with further > >> aspects.http://www.experts-exchange.com/articles/Web_Development/Software/Exp... > >> > >> If you want to keep your theme then you will have to save the style sheet > >> and the graphics and put it together as a template to be turned into a > >> dwt.... > >> > >> Free Expression Web Dynamic Web Templates > >> Ebookhttp://any-expression.com/expression-web/ebooks/expression-web-dwt-eb... > >> > >> actually sounds like a good idea for a tutorial ... but not sure I want > >> to > >> encourage people to use a look everyone has ... perhaps it could be based > >> on > >> custom designed theme!.. have to think about that one:) > >> > >> anyways .. thats your best way forward.. .shout if you need any help > >> > >> Tina > >> Expression Web Tips Ebooks > >> Launch price $7 - 26 EW Tips each. Bundle $13 vol l & > >> llhttp://any-expression.com/expression-web/ebooks/ > > > > Thank you for your advice. Silly question - what's a dwt file? > > > > Chris B.
From: Tina Clarke on 8 May 2010 19:09 Thank you for your advice. Silly question - what's a dwt file? Chris B. sorry Chris.... its a dynamic web template .... its sort of a theme on steriods;) let us know how you get on.. and shout up if you get stuck at any point ... I've just installed wp over and over and over again .... to get it right in moving my blog on the new host ..... each time i find something i did wrong lol ... would be fun if i had'nt had to move computers too and to deal with a bunch of offline things..... the second stage will be harder ... i swore i wont make a theme till i can actually do it and know how to validate it so will be immersed in morten's ew and wp tutorials at some point after other projects are finished..... - the point being - enjoy the journey ;) Tina Expression Web Tips Ebooks Launch price $7 - 26 EW Tips each. Bundle $13 vol l & ll http://any-expression.com/expression-web/ebooks/
From: CJB on 10 May 2010 18:37 On May 9, 12:09 am, "Tina Clarke" <TinaCla...(a)any-expression.com> wrote: > Thank you for your advice. Silly question - what's a dwt file? > > Chris B. > > sorry Chris.... > > its a dynamic web template .... its sort of a theme on steriods;) > > let us know how you get on.. and shout up if you get stuck at any point .... > > I've just installed wp over and over and over again .... to get it right in > moving my blog on the new host ..... each time i find something i did wrong > lol ... would be fun if i had'nt had to move computers too and to deal with > a bunch of offline things..... the second stage will be harder ... i swore i > wont make a theme till i can actually do it and know how to validate it so > will be immersed in morten's ew and wp tutorials at some point after other > projects are finished..... - the point being - enjoy the journey ;) > > Tina > Expression Web Tips Ebooks > Launch price $7 - 26 EW Tips each. Bundle $13 vol l & llhttp://any-expression.com/expression-web/ebooks/ Ok - thanks everyone for your help and interest. I have now copied my FP web and then opened it into SPD. I see how this works - up to a point. However I need to preserve the FP Theme(s) and the style sheet files don't seem to work - in particular w.r.t horizontal lines and bullet points and fonts. Luckily I don't use shared borders!! How can I convert a FP Theme into SPD. This might seem lazy but I have hundreds of pages to convert. And with FP you can apply a Theme to the whole web site in one go - easy. Thanks - Chris B.
From: Tina Clarke on 11 May 2010 04:35 Ok - thanks everyone for your help and interest. I have now copied my FP web and then opened it into SPD. I see how this works - up to a point. However I need to preserve the FP Theme(s) and the style sheet files don't seem to work - in particular w.r.t horizontal lines and bullet points and fonts. Luckily I don't use shared borders!! How can I convert a FP Theme into SPD. This might seem lazy but I have hundreds of pages to convert. And with FP you can apply a Theme to the whole web site in one go - easy. Thanks - Chris B. Is this a custom theme? whats your site link? You just make a page with the elements of what you want..... if its a generic theme ... .why not design something unique to you? just look for the background graphic and any other images you want .. they will be there in the folder list in the themes When you say 'copy' your fp web .... hope you mean you published your site to a new web on your hd? ...do it any other way and you are bound to lose something.... a fp theme is so badly coded .... you really dont want to use any coding from it .... if you want to play about with a dwt ... these free Site Templates will let you do that with spd ... which dont have the generic dwts that expression web has as far as i can remember... http://www.frontpage-to-expression.com/site-templates/ with a dwt you can apply the template to the whole site in one go - and have a lot more control over it than a theme ... with a dwts editable and non editable regions... see my free dwt ebook to help you get started http://any-expression.com/expression-web/free-dwt/ and follow the setting up ebook also free for expression 1 .. that way you will be set up and it will cause you less problems. Tina F ree Expression Web Toolbar - Expression Web and Web Design Resources http://frontpage-to-expression.com/expression-web-community-toolbar.html Just posted new links to the toolbar - Make YOUR suggestions Will work in FireFox IE and Safari
From: CJB on 11 May 2010 09:12
Thank you. I have two themes - one FP and one custom. I don't mind losing the FP one (tropo), but the tall ship / sailing one I'd like to keep. The other issue with the FP pages are that they are full of <div></ div> and <p text="xxxx"> kind of tags - most of which are redundant. The only way of getting rid of these is to use use Edit # Find / Replace - but there are so many varieties of redundant tags. FP is/was too good at producing bloated HTML!!! Examples of the themes are at: http://chrisbrady.itgo.com/ http://chrisbrady.itgo.com/tallship/wantosail.htm (keep sound down) Thank you - Chris B. Tina Clarke wrote: > Ok - thanks everyone for your help and interest. > > I have now copied my FP web and then opened it into SPD. I see how > this works - up to a point. However I need to preserve the FP Theme(s) > and the style sheet files don't seem to work - in particular w.r.t > horizontal lines and bullet points and fonts. Luckily I don't use > shared borders!! How can I convert a FP Theme into SPD. This might > seem lazy but I have hundreds of pages to convert. And with FP you can > apply a Theme to the whole web site in one go - easy. > > Thanks - Chris B. > > > > Is this a custom theme? > whats your site link? > > You just make a page with the elements of what you want..... if its a > generic theme ... .why not design something unique to you? > > just look for the background graphic and any other images you want .. they > will be there in the folder list in the themes > > When you say 'copy' your fp web .... hope you mean you published your site > to a new web on your hd? ...do it any other way and you are bound to lose > something.... > > a fp theme is so badly coded .... you really dont want to use any coding > from it .... > > if you want to play about with a dwt ... these free Site Templates will let > you do that with spd ... which dont have the generic dwts that expression > web has as far as i can remember... > > http://www.frontpage-to-expression.com/site-templates/ > > with a dwt you can apply the template to the whole site in one go - and have > a lot more control over it than a theme ... with a dwts editable and non > editable regions... > > see my free dwt ebook to help you get started > http://any-expression.com/expression-web/free-dwt/ > > and follow the setting up ebook also free for expression 1 .. that way you > will be set up and it will cause you less problems. > > Tina > F ree Expression Web Toolbar - Expression Web and Web Design Resources > http://frontpage-to-expression.com/expression-web-community-toolbar.html > Just posted new links to the toolbar - Make YOUR suggestions > Will work in FireFox IE and Safari |