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From: Rob on 6 Dec 2009 02:30 Fred wrote: > Polly the Parrot wrote: >> On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 23:58:41 +1030, "Fred" <bluser(a)gaymail.com> wrote: >> >>> Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF " <""wassim.noujwas\"@yahoo.com is a >>> tool . wrote: >>>> atec 7 7 wrote: >>>>> keithr wrote: >>>>>> Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> No doubt about it. KRudd is a bloody fool! >>>>>> Better he than the Mad Monk >>>>> You have a choice which is pretty much pre made >>>>> krud plus the tax on everything >>>>> someone else >>>>> choose one wit no bullshite >>>> Obviously the fool wants to pay more tax. >>> Fact is not many people don't understand what an ETS is. Simple >>> minded folk might believe it's a tax on everything and vote >>> accordingly. >>> Compensation means the proposal is really a money-go-round with >>> associated bureaucracy, >>> Only a small percentage of high wealth individuals would be left >>> holding the can. >> And why is this fair? > > An ETS is supposed to encourage high carbon users to reduce their > consumption. > > > me thinks that they will buy credits as an offset, keep polution high, and pass on the costs onto the comsumer. Don't see anywhere that the goverment has addressed other gasses in the polution equation.
From: SG1 on 6 Dec 2009 03:00 "Rob" <mesamine(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:hffmhu$r4q$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > Fred wrote: >> Polly the Parrot wrote: >>> On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 23:58:41 +1030, "Fred" <bluser(a)gaymail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF " <""wassim.noujwas\"@yahoo.com is a >>>> tool . wrote: >>>>> atec 7 7 wrote: >>>>>> keithr wrote: >>>>>>> Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No doubt about it. KRudd is a bloody fool! >>>>>>> Better he than the Mad Monk >>>>>> You have a choice which is pretty much pre made >>>>>> krud plus the tax on everything >>>>>> someone else >>>>>> choose one wit no bullshite >>>>> Obviously the fool wants to pay more tax. >>>> Fact is not many people don't understand what an ETS is. Simple >>>> minded folk might believe it's a tax on everything and vote >>>> accordingly. >>>> Compensation means the proposal is really a money-go-round with >>>> associated bureaucracy, >>>> Only a small percentage of high wealth individuals would be left >>>> holding the can. >>> And why is this fair? >> >> An ETS is supposed to encourage high carbon users to reduce their >> consumption. > me thinks that they will buy credits as an offset, keep polution high, > and pass on the costs onto the comsumer. > > Don't see anywhere that the goverment has addressed other gasses in the > polution equation. The planned ETS is to cover farting as well.
From: terryc on 6 Dec 2009 08:44 On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 22:54:54 +1100, keithr wrote: > I'm not sure that he'll achieve anything, if the policies that he has > put forward so far are any guide (hint: none). The libs will probably > dump him soon after they win and put in somebody who actually has an > idea. Do they have anyone? OTOH, why should they say anything now and risk giving labor some diversionary item. > The choice at the next NSW election is between buckley's and none. I > think that I'll just put "None of the above" on the ballot paper. You would not be the first. A lot of drivel and a few bits of wit are written on the papers each election. Whatever you do, do not leave the numbers blank but put 1 or a X in each box.
From: terryc on 6 Dec 2009 09:01 On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 23:48:59 +1030, Fred wrote: >> Can you explain today's poll on 9MSN then ? "Do you understand the >> Labor ETS scheme?" >> >> so far : >> Yes = 1,419 >> No = 22,242 > > I agree that not many people understand what an ETS is, Your reply was general. The poll question is about a specific ETS. The devil in the detail aspect.
From: Rod Speed on 6 Dec 2009 13:17
Fred wrote > terryc wrote >> Fred wrote >>> Compensation means the proposal is really a money-go-round with >>> associated bureaucracy, >>> Only a small percentage of high wealth individuals would be left >>> holding the can. >> Can you explain how I get the compensation? I'm already getting the increased bills > If a ETS gest up compensation would be provided through the tax system, presumably as a tax rebate applied each year. That isnt clear yet, they may instead just hand out rebates to say pensioners and others on welfare etc, like they currently do. And its far from clear that either approach will change consumer behavior anyway. |