Relativistic raising of the Djed-pillar
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From: JTEM on 25 Jul 2010 23:33 Immortalist <reanimater_2...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > ...The djed pillar is the symbol of stability, > often standing on Maat, the god of truth (a > solid foundation). The pillar has three places > near its top where ropes may be wound around > the pillar. The ropes > might be used to hold a kite from flying away. In some illustrations > the middle groove has both of the eyes of Horus or is simply colored > red. It could be that the rope from the middle section went up to the > kite Horus. The other two rope sections are colored black and might > have been anchored to the ground. The pillar was the tool that allowed > the kite and its load to move laterally to the wind direction. > > http://www.everleaf.com/pyramids/egypt.htm > > According to Wallis Budge, the Djed is the oldest symbol of Osiris, > and symbolizes his backbone and his body in general. He states that > originally Osiris was probably represented by the Djed alone, and that > he had no other form. He regards the Djed hieroglyph as a > conventional representation of a part of his spinal column and gives > its meaning as "to be stable, to be permanent, abiding, established > firmly, enduring. > > The reconstruction of the body of Osiris occurred at a place called > Djedu,in the Delta region of Lower Egypt and it was here that the > yearly ceremony of 'Raising the Djed Pillar' took place on the last > day of the month of Khoiak, the eve of the agricultural New Year. The > next day marked the beginning of the four month long season of Pert, > or 'Going Forth' during which the lands rose out of the flood waters > allowing the fields to be sown.Djedu was also referred to as Per-Asar- > Neb-Djedu, meaning "The House of Osiris - the Lord of Djedu". The > Greeks called it Busiris, after the shortened title Per-Asar - "The > House of Osiris" > > Mythologically, the 'Raising of the Djed' symbolised the resurrection > of Osiris, and with its annual re-enactment represented the death and > renewal of the yearly cycle. Osiris is referred to as "Lord of the > Year" in the Pyramid Texts 7 and that he was also the god of > agriculture meant that his annual resurrection ensured the stability > of the abundance of the next season's crops. > > http://www.pyramidofman.com/Djed/http://www.pyramidofman.com/Djed/Djedspine2.gifhttp://www.pyramidofman.com/Djed/Djedspine.gif > > It was probably at Memphis that kings first performed a ceremony known > as "raising the djed pillar", which not only served as a metaphor for > the stability of the monarch, but also symbolized the resurrection of > Osiris. Our best record of this ceremony comes from a depiction in > the Osiris Hall at Abydos. It was eventually incorporated into one of > the Sed Festivals of Amenhotep III at Thebes. > > This ceremony, performed as early as the Middle Kingdom, took place at > the time when the flood was at its height. Overall known as the Feast > of Khoiak, it began with an effigy of the dead god, cast in gold and > filled with a mixture of sand and grain. As the waters were receding > from the inundation and grain was being planted in the land, the > effigy was watered daily. Then, for three days, it was floated on the > waters of the Nile, and on the twenty-fourth day of the ancient > Egyptian month of Khoiak, it was placed in a coffin and laid in a > grave. On the thirtieth day, the effigy was actually buried. > > This seven day delay represented the god's seven-day gestation in the > womb of Nut, his mother. On the last day, the king and priests raised > a djed pillar as a symbol of Osiris' rejuvenation and strength, > apparently at a placed in the Delta known as Djedu (Greek Busiris). > Now, the land would be fertile for yet another year. The next day > marked the four month long season of Pert (Going Forth) during which > the land appeared to rise up out of the flood waters allowing the > fields to be planted. > > http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/djedpillar.htm > > It is comparable to the Sumerian counterpart of the temen (temple), > and equated with the potency and duration of the pharaoh's > rule... ...Over time, the djed pillar came to represent the more > abstract ideas of stability and permanency... > > http://www.crystalinks.com/djed.htmlhttp://www.crystalinks.com/djedwasrelief.jpg > > Prior to the construction of the Aswan Dam, the Nile river would flood > annually, replenishing Egypt's soil. This gave... > > read more »
From: JTEM on 25 Jul 2010 23:44 Immortalist <reanimater_2...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > ...The djed pillar is the symbol of stability, > often standing on Maat,the god of truth (a > solid foundation). The pillar has three places > near its top where ropes may be wound around > the pillar. The ropes might be used to hold Now it's funny that you should say that, because ancient Egyptian art wasn't anything like art as we think of today. Not only was proportion often quite off, by it wasn't unusual at all for a sign to depict the same object/place from more than one point of view simultaneously.What this means is that "What does it look like?" is often a misleading question. Now, having said that allow me to completely contradict myself and say that the Djed looks to me like a sailing ship's mast. The pillar, well, that's easy enough to imagine as a ship's mast. After all, what is a mast but a pillar made from wood? Those horizontal lines though, they're something of a head scratcher. But, keep in mind that the Egyptians weren't exactly "Big" on making sure they depicted everything from the same angle. Now, take a look at the following. It's Minoan, yes, but the exact same mast/ring system has been attributed to the ancient Egyptians. So even if it's not Egyptian you can still see exactly what I'm talking about: http://www.minoanatlantis.com/pix/Akrotiri_Miniature_Frieze_Ships_550px.jpg It's the ship with the big, white sail, if you have to ask. Anyhow, turn those rings sideways and you've got a pretty good representation of the Djed. YMMV.
From: Bernhard Schornak on 29 Jul 2010 16:37 George Hammond wrote: > ____ > | | > ========= > | | > ========= > | | > ========= > | | > | | > | | > | | > / \ > / \ > ===== > > THE DJED-PILLAR > > The Djed-pillar was a ubiquitous divine symbol in ancient > Egypt. It ranks perhaps second only to the Ankh as a > religious symbol yet no one knows the origin of the > Djed-pillar. Budge thought it was a mason's table which I > find incredible while some have suggested it was originally > a Nileometer. > Doubtlessly the suggestive psychological form of the > object places it in the common "Venetian blind" category > which is well known to evoke a visual nuance of > transcendence. > In addition, there was a well established Heb-Sed > ceremony known as the "Raising of the Djed-pillar" which is > shown in a startling realistic bas-relief in the temple of > Seti-I at Abydos. The act of "raising" the pillar seems to > add force to the conjecture that the Venetian blind like > structure does indeed symbolize "transcendent perception", > and that the Pharaoh perhaps was held responsible for > "raising the bar" of the general perceptual level of the > population. The Djed pillar in other words was the > pre-Christian symbol of what is referred to as the > "transfiguration" in modern religion... or perhaps more > accurately the "Holy Spirit" itself. > The modern "Cross" has long since replaced the Ankh and > one wonders if perhaps the Nimbus (i.e. "halo") of modern > Christian art has perhaps replaced the Djed symbol? > Does Anyone have any other theories as to what the > symbolic meaning of the Djed-pillar actually was or from > whence the physical form of the object originated? Hi George! Alan Gardiner described Djed as a column imitating a bundle of stalks tied together, and that is probably its true meaning. The comparison with a human spinal column came up in the new kingdom (18th through 20th dynasty). In earlier periods, it just stands for du- rability and endurance. Djed pillars already existed before dynasty zero: http://xoomer.virgilio.it/francescoraf/hesyra/helwan.htm That much about the egyptian point of view. The Djed pillar is seen as a phallic symbol, and "raising the pillar" might have been a picturesque circumlocution for "getting an errection". A look at those pictures definitely proves this theory. (Question is whom you want to penetrate with such an oversized thing...) The cross was just an instrument to kill people with maximum pain. Delinquents generally survived several days before they died. There was no need to look for symbols anywhere, they just had to watch what Romans practised on a daily base. Moreover, there is a huge difference between an Ankh and a cross. The Ankh has that horizontal bar in its middle (or even below), while crosses have it in the upper third or even at top (Phoenicians, 1,000 BCE). Djed pillars have four capitals, so it is quite hard to mismatch them with a "T" or "t" shaped cross. Physical forms of tools (and a cross is a tool) most times are derived from their purpose. Development of killing and torturing tools is one of the few things humans do with perfection - you can be sure that the physical form of a cross cannot be improved further. Greetings from Augsburg Bernhard Schornak
From: George Hammond on 30 Jul 2010 04:50 On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:37:21 +0200, Bernhard Schornak <schornak(a)web.de> wrote: >George Hammond wrote: > > > > ____ > > | | > > ========= > > | | > > ========= > > | | > > ========= > > | | > > | | > > | | > > | | > > / \ > > / \ > > ===== > > > > THE DJED-PILLAR > > > > The Djed-pillar was a ubiquitous divine symbol in ancient > > Egypt. It ranks perhaps second only to the Ankh as a > > religious symbol yet no one knows the origin of the > > Djed-pillar. Budge thought it was a mason's table which I > > find incredible while some have suggested it was originally > > a Nileometer. > > Doubtlessly the suggestive psychological form of the > > object places it in the common "Venetian blind" category > > which is well known to evoke a visual nuance of > > transcendence. > > In addition, there was a well established Heb-Sed > > ceremony known as the "Raising of the Djed-pillar" which is > > shown in a startling realistic bas-relief in the temple of > > Seti-I at Abydos. The act of "raising" the pillar seems to > > add force to the conjecture that the Venetian blind like > > structure does indeed symbolize "transcendent perception", > > and that the Pharaoh perhaps was held responsible for > > "raising the bar" of the general perceptual level of the > > population. The Djed pillar in other words was the > > pre-Christian symbol of what is referred to as the > > "transfiguration" in modern religion... or perhaps more > > accurately the "Holy Spirit" itself. > > The modern "Cross" has long since replaced the Ankh and > > one wonders if perhaps the Nimbus (i.e. "halo") of modern > > Christian art has perhaps replaced the Djed symbol? > > Does Anyone have any other theories as to what the > > symbolic meaning of the Djed-pillar actually was or from > > whence the physical form of the object originated? > > > [Hammond] Hi Bernie. Greetings from Hyannis. > >[Shornak] >Hi George! > >Alan Gardiner described Djed as a column imitating a >bundle of stalks tied together, and that is probably >its true meaning. > > [Hammond] Since Gardiner is the progenitor of that clumbsy academic fable we can be sure it is incorrect, even foolish. Gardiner was a linguist and scholar of classical literature. Egyptology for him was purely a hobby. To know what the Djed is one must be first a physicist, second, a psychologist, and third a theologian. Gardiner is neither. > > ><snip> > >[Schornak] > The Djed >pillar is seen as a phallic symbol, and "raising the >pillar" might have been a picturesque circumlocution >for "getting an errection" > > [Hammond] More academic style staircase wit. The Egyptians weren't stupid, unsophisticated nor vulgar. Raising the Djed was what is captured in todays euphemism "raising the bar", in this case for admission into the trancendental levels of reality. The Djed symbolized the "Holy Spirit" in Egyptian divinity. > > >[Schornak] >The cross was just an instrument to kill people with >maximum pain. > > [Hammond] Na... its design is supposed to inflict "psychological pain" not merely physical pain. > > <snip> > >[Schornak] >Moreover, there is a huge difference between an Ankh >and a cross. > > [Hammond] Na... there is more similarity than difference. It had the same message, it was the heiroglyphic symbol for "life" which is what the modern Cross of Christianity stands for whether it is on the roof of a Mexican adobe church or on an ancient Celtic headstone. > > <snip> > > [Schornak] >Djed pillars have four capitals, so it is quite hard >to mismatch them with a "T" or "t" shaped cross. > [Hammond] Look, you are failing to distinguish between the Cross and the Trinity. The Cross is the STRUCTURAL symbol of Psychology based on the orthogonal cleavage of the brain while the Trinity represents the DYNAMIC structure of psychology because it is the trinary feedback loop commonly known as the "father son and holy spirit" which controls the mind. The CROSS and the TRINITY in the Egyptian religion were known as the ANKH and the DJED. > > <snip> > >Greetings from Augsburg > >Bernhard Schornak ======================================== GEORGE HAMMOND'S PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE Primary site http://webspace.webring.com/people/eg/george_hammond Mirror site http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com HAMMOND FOLK SONG by Casey Bennetto http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 =======================================
From: Geopelia on 30 Jul 2010 18:30
How big would a kite have to be to raise one of the large pyramid stones? |