Relativistic raising of the Djed-pillar
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From: George Hammond on 31 Jul 2010 13:16 On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 07:33:11 -0500, John Stafford <nhoj(a)droffats.ten> wrote: >In article <7cd7569vjdmafvhfq5mjifbhqmdh4c75up(a)4ax.com>, > George Hammond <Nowhere1(a)notspam.com> wrote: > >> On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 22:19:23 -0500, John Stafford >> <nhoj(a)droffats.ten> wrote: > >> >That would be one heck of a wind, eh? (Ever heard of Domina Jalbert?) >> > >> [Hammond] >> No.... ever heard of Buckah Finyaddy ? > >No. Who is/was Buckah Finyaddy? > >Jalbert designed and built flew the largest kites in history, and was >the inventor of the parasail/parafoil. His motivation was to use kites >as lifting devices, and of course they also made good sails, parachutes. > > [Hammond] The desert winds at Saqqara do reach incredible strength giving rise to the legendary "sandstorms" with which we are all familiar from countless Hollywood movies. However, the spectre of 1,000 Egyptians holding on to a 2 inch hawser trying to control a kite bearing a 21/2 stone block simply defies credibility. Interestingly this widely published thesis posits that the subject Dejed-pillar was actually a "capstan" used to reel the kite in and position it over the pyramid. As a physicist I find the whole scenario quite absurd since the attendant sandstorm would make the location of the kite near invisible, and the legendary swoo-ping and diving of kites would have made the thing unimaginably dangerous. As dfor Buckah Finyaddy.... no one knows who he actually was... he was a local mythological character here in my home town on Cape Cod when I was a kid and to him was regularly attributed any unusual occurances in the community. ======================================== GEORGE HAMMOND'S PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE Primary site http://webspace.webring.com/people/eg/george_hammond Mirror site http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com HAMMOND FOLK SONG by Casey Bennetto http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 =======================================
From: George Hammond on 1 Aug 2010 00:45 On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:33:16 -0400, George Hammond <Nowhere1(a)notspam.com> wrote: >On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:46:38 +0200, Bernhard Schornak ><schornak(a)web.de> wrote: > [Hammond] P.S.---- On the subject of the Trinity, the fact that you are unaware of is that the Trinity is a SCIENTIFIC OBJECT caused by a scentific fact. Basically, the body has a genotypic blueprint for a perfect physical body and it proceeds to produce that body (the phenotype) using a feedback loop where the output is supposed to equal the input. Unfortunately the output never equals the input... no one turns out to be fully grown, which causes part of the mind to be "unconscious" (i.e. ungrown), so mentally speaking we have a feedback loop which is shown here: http://webspace.webring.com/people/eg/george_hammond/TrinityFAQ.html This fact exists irregardless of the existence of any religion, however history shows that after a long enough time any religion will discover it. Christianity discovered it in 325 AD, the Egyptians discovered it at least by the first dynasty since we find Djed Pillars in 1st Dynasty graves. While the 4th century Christians identified the Trinity THEORETICALLY and had a clear idea of the 3 parts of the feedback look, and named them: INPUT = FATHER (fully grown body) OUTPUT=SON (actually grown body) FEEDBACK=HOLY GHOST (the unconscious ungrown mind) The egyptians identified the Trinity DIRECTLY, that is by direct empirical observation of human mental function... IOW they could SEE how well another person could comprehend reality and thereby EMPIRICALLY judge the size of his unconscious mind relativie to his conscious mind. They REPRESENTED this PSYCHOLOGICAL PHENOMENON as a verticle scale: ______ | | =========== | | ( FATHER) =========== | | (SON) =========== | | ( HOLY GHOST) =========== | | | | | | | | | | | | | | / \ ------------ known as the DJED, or in modern terms, the Trinity. So DRAMATIC, instantanous and memorable is the psycho-perceptual visual impact of this "Venetian blind" type structure and its OBVIOUS relation to human mental (particularly class) structure, that it became the most commonly know decoration in amulets, jewlery, paintins and decoration, particularly in religious decoration, that it is second only to the CROSS (Ankh) in frequency of appearance in ancient Egypt. Now lets be fair Bernie (for a change).... try to remember how uninitiated you are in basic psychology and religion.... I mean you're the guy woh actually asked me "why was a fish the original symbol of Christianity"..... why for chrissakes Bernie such a question would cause an outbreak of laughter in professional psychological or theological circles! But the bottom line is this.... it was COMMON KNOWLEGE among the ancient Egyptian priesthood (which was larger than the Vatican is today)... that the "invisible world" COULD BE GLIMPSED and that the true identiy, and even intended identity of other people could be VISUALLY DETECTED by the trained and educated eye..... and this "trancendental visual phenomenon" if you will was ABSOLUTELY... IRREFUTABLY EVEN.. symbolized by the Djed-Pillar..... and hence this is why it IS THE WORLDS FIRST FORMAL SYMBOL OF THE TRINITY. Beyond that of course is the fact that it was a water-level detector... which immediately connects it to the unconscious mind... since WATER is the universal metaphor for the unconscious mind (remenmber Jesus could 'walk on water'). In point of fact.... I think the DJED was a "pure symbol" whose form was probably abstracted from a number of similar looking objects.... sheafs of bundled hay... water level indicators... perhaps even oil soaked torches used for night lighting..... HOWEVER.... eventually the PURE GEOMETRY (the Venetian blind geometry) is what became the ETERNAL ICONIC SYMBOL OF THE TRINITY. Don't go away mad Bernie... and excuse my tantrums... you know you are capable of pissing me off... and I know you like to tease me... so lighten up.... we're onto something here and we have to get to the bottom of it. ======================================== GEORGE HAMMOND'S PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE Primary site http://webspace.webring.com/people/eg/george_hammond Mirror site http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com HAMMOND FOLK SONG by Casey Bennetto http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 =======================================
From: John Stafford on 1 Aug 2010 07:50 In article <iul856185qvf7nhbakki0qnk49ikftm197(a)4ax.com>, George Hammond <Nowhere1(a)notspam.com> wrote: > On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 07:33:11 -0500, John Stafford > <nhoj(a)droffats.ten> wrote: > > >In article <7cd7569vjdmafvhfq5mjifbhqmdh4c75up(a)4ax.com>, > > George Hammond <Nowhere1(a)notspam.com> wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 22:19:23 -0500, John Stafford > >> <nhoj(a)droffats.ten> wrote: > > > >> >That would be one heck of a wind, eh? (Ever heard of Domina Jalbert?) > >> > > >> [Hammond] > >> No.... ever heard of Buckah Finyaddy ? > > > >No. Who is/was Buckah Finyaddy? > > > >Jalbert designed and built flew the largest kites in history, and was > >the inventor of the parasail/parafoil. His motivation was to use kites > >as lifting devices, and of course they also made good sails, parachutes. > > > > > [Hammond] > The desert winds at Saqqara do reach incredible strength > giving rise to the legendary "sandstorms" with which we are > all familiar from countless Hollywood movies. However, the > spectre of 1,000 Egyptians holding on to a 2 inch hawser > trying to control a kite bearing a 21/2 stone block simply > defies credibility. For the record, Jalbert had never suggested the role of a kite in the building of the pyramids. > As dfor Buckah Finyaddy.... no one knows who he actually > was... he was a local mythological character here in my home > town on Cape Cod when I was a kid and to him was regularly > attributed any unusual occurances in the community. I also heard him called Yahoodi. Unfortunate name.
From: Bernhard Schornak on 2 Aug 2010 04:24 George Hammond wrote: > George Hammond wrote: > >> Bernhard Schornak wrote: >> > [Hammond] > P.S.---- > On the subject of the Trinity, the fact that you are > unaware of is that the Trinity is a SCIENTIFIC OBJECT caused > by a scentific fact. Basically, the body has a genotypic > blueprint for a perfect physical body and it proceeds to > produce that body (the phenotype) using a feedback loop > where the output is supposed to equal the input. > Unfortunately the output never equals the input... no one > turns out to be fully grown, which causes part of the mind > to be "unconscious" (i.e. ungrown), so mentally speaking we > have a feedback loop which is shown here: > > http://webspace.webring.com/people/eg/george_hammond/TrinityFAQ.html Okay, I get back to that later. I just have no time left at the moment because I am busy with a lot of other things right now. It's not for- gotten, just delayed. > This fact exists irregardless of the existence of any > religion, however history shows that after a long enough > time any religion will discover it. Christianity discovered > it in 325 AD, the Egyptians discovered it at least by the > first dynasty since we find Djed Pillars in 1st Dynasty > graves. > > While the 4th century Christians identified the Trinity > THEORETICALLY and had a clear idea of the 3 parts of the > feedback look, and named them: > > INPUT = FATHER (fully grown body) > OUTPUT=SON (actually grown body) > FEEDBACK=HOLY GHOST (the unconscious ungrown mind) > > The egyptians identified the Trinity DIRECTLY, that is by > direct empirical observation of human mental function... IOW > they could SEE how well another person could comprehend > reality and thereby EMPIRICALLY judge the size of his > unconscious mind relativie to his conscious mind. They > REPRESENTED this PSYCHOLOGICAL PHENOMENON as a verticle > scale: > ______ > | | > =========== > | | ( FATHER) > =========== > | | (SON) > =========== > | | ( HOLY GHOST) > =========== > | | > | | > | | > | | > | | > | | > | | > / \ > ------------ > > known as the DJED, or in modern terms, the Trinity. Well, I will think about that - doesn't really convince me at a first glance. > So DRAMATIC, instantanous and memorable is the > psycho-perceptual visual impact of this "Venetian blind" > type structure and its OBVIOUS relation to human mental > (particularly class) structure, that it became the most > commonly know decoration in amulets, jewlery, paintins and > decoration, particularly in religious decoration, that it is > second only to the CROSS (Ankh) in frequency of appearance > in ancient Egypt. > > Now lets be fair Bernie (for a change).... try to > remember how uninitiated you are in basic psychology and > religion.... I mean you're the guy woh actually asked me > "why was a fish the original symbol of Christianity"..... > why for chrissakes Bernie such a question would cause an > outbreak of laughter in professional psychological or > theological circles! I didn't ask anything about fish, I remembered you that early christians used a fish as their symbol, not a cross. > But the bottom line is this.... it was COMMON KNOWLEGE > among the ancient Egyptian priesthood (which was larger than > the Vatican is today)... that the "invisible world" COULD BE > GLIMPSED and that the true identiy, and even intended > identity of other people could be VISUALLY DETECTED by the > trained and educated eye..... and this "trancendental visual > phenomenon" if you will was ABSOLUTELY... IRREFUTABLY EVEN.. > symbolized by the Djed-Pillar..... and hence this is why it > IS THE WORLDS FIRST FORMAL SYMBOL OF THE TRINITY. Reminds me of Erich von Daeniken, who tries to interprete everything he sees as influenced by alien astronauts. Assumed, ancient priests did design the pillar with four capitals, but really ment the spaces between the capitals (this assumption never is accepted by egyptologists) - how could they've known of something like the trinity, which was invented more than 4,200 years after the first known Djed pillar? How could a priest who knew at least 50 Gods and Godesses by heart know of a "threefold entity" which came up about 4,200 years after him? Why should he create a symbol of three foreign Gods "containing" each other? Such kind of a God was not in their mythology, and it had destroyed the entire belief system, good enough to survive for about 4,300 years - the last Egyptian temple was closed in the 6th century CE by christian authorities... Remember what happened after Echnaton tried to establish the first monotheistic religion: His statues and buildings were destroyed, his name was removed from all places and he was a "per- sona non grata" for all dynasties after him. > Beyond that of course is the fact that it was a water-level > detector... which immediately connects it to the unconscious > mind... since WATER is the universal metaphor for the > unconscious mind (remenmber Jesus could 'walk on water'). Get over it - Djed pillars, like pylons, never were used as water-level detectors. There were much better instruments for that. Stairs don't require a boat to get a precise reading of the instrument, while pillars have to be placed in the water, so you either had to swim or to use a boat. Ancient records were precise up to one djeba (1.85 centimeters). > In point of fact.... I think the DJED was a "pure symbol" > whose form was probably abstracted from a number of similar > looking objects.... sheafs of bundled hay... water level > indicators... perhaps even oil soaked torches used for night > lighting..... HOWEVER.... eventually the PURE GEOMETRY (the > Venetian blind geometry) is what became the ETERNAL ICONIC > SYMBOL OF THE TRINITY. > Don't go away mad Bernie... and excuse my tantrums... you > know you are capable of pissing me off... and I know you > like to tease me... so lighten up.... we're onto something > here and we have to get to the bottom of it. There are surely more bottoms - one of them is the proof that Judaism is just a modified copy of Echnaton's Aton cult. Sigmund Freud wrote a book "the man Moses and monotheistic religion" about this topic... Greetings from Augsburg Bernhard Schornak
From: Geopelia on 2 Aug 2010 10:23
"George Hammond" <Nowhere1(a)notspam.com> wrote in message news:nurc56lmv34hms2lcs3aa9k67jdripa1p3(a)4ax.com... > On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 08:31:39 +0200, Bernhard Schornak > <schornak(a)web.de> wrote: > >>George Hammond wrote: >> >> >>> Bernhard Schornak wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> [Hammond] >>>>> Is the Pope a Catholic? >>>> >>>> >>>> Nope - he's a pope (belonging to a rope...). >>>> >>> [Hammond] >>> What's that supposed to be a non sequitur? >> >> >>Just my humble opinion. I hate to live in Bavaria as >>long as this unholy virus is not put into a jail. It >>might not be known in the USA (where most christians >>are not catholic), but every educated European knows >>about his historical background as Great Inquisitor. >>He also was involved in corporal punishment of a lot >>of children being held in catholic "residential" and >>"approved" schools in the borders of his diocese. >> >>Not to speak of his "deeds" as pope, kicking the de- >>velopments of the last two centuries back to deepest >>Middle Ages. Not to speak of his reactonary books or >>public statements. >> >>Sorry, but I only have links to German sites. I just >>found this one on he fly: >> >>http://www.newint.org/issue327/worldbeaters.htm >> >>Google for "ratzinger+inquisition" and the likes... >> >> > [Hammond] > I am a Protestant and my family has been Protestant for > ten generations as far as I know. My stepsister called me > up in the middle of the night a couple of months ago and > told me that she was converting to Catholicism. I haven't > heard anything about it recently but at the time I wrote it > off to the fact that she is a redhead. That's all I know > about the Catholic Church other than what I've read in a > book. (rest snipped) [Geopelia] My family were Church of England, but I had relatives (including my Godmother) who converted to Catholicism, so I grew up learning about both religions. It seems very sad that there should be so much animosity between the two beliefs, especially in Ireland. It's not for me to criticize either church, but if I had to pick one I'd be C of E. I've been agnostic for years now, but still like the old hymns etc. |