TI-nspire CAS will kill HP 50G
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From: manjo on 1 Nov 2006 14:30 Well, i hope you are better informed than i The idea i wanted to share in my previous post it that G+ and 50G have very flexible expandable hardware platform Which could be used to produce compatible machines even further enhanced in everyway as time will pass. I am sure Xpander was a good design but i can't tell you enough about, how much i like the backward compatibility of the G+ and 50G, and i know a great deal of users ,familiar with HP calculators, who vaue this the same way. Xpander, Nspire are different concepts. Better, but not necesary better for all applications. If HP was more interested in education market i would expect they would market their product better/more. It almost seams as if HP has first and foremost concern about the part of the market which used to use and at some point to some degree understood and got familiar with the concept and what stands for "HP calculators" rpn, principles of operation, language etc.... (which i like very much) And i know for a fact that many other people do as well. (why else do you think GX models are still VERY popular and priced high where you can get one) Once all those people realize that 50G is all that what they are used to AND more (just in a little up-to-date package) they will do the switch. BUT to switch to something completely different -i wouldn't expect that so easily. manjo
From: Yao Konan on 1 Nov 2006 14:56 Hi, manjo a écrit : > Well, > i hope you are better informed than i It seems so on educational market products. > The idea i wanted to share in my previous post it that > G+ and 50G have very flexible expandable hardware platform I personnaly don't agree but every one has its own opinion. > Which could be used to produce compatible machines even further > enhanced in everyway as time will pass. I would say that the main problem i see with the HP49G+/HP50G is that it keeps some hardware limitations of the HP49G such as the low resolution screen,the 512 KB of RAM and the 2 MB of Flash ROM. It even has less user RAM and less user Flash ROM. I would agree with you if it has more RAM and Flash ROM to easily enable third party apps to take advantage of this increased memory. > I am sure Xpander was a good design but i can't tell you enough about, how > much i like > the backward compatibility of the G+ and 50G, and i know a great deal of > users > ,familiar with HP calculators, who vaue this the same way. This backward compatibility can be achieved with an emulator running as an application on a more powerful product with new software as long as it has similar keyboard layout than the HP49G. And this is what i expected from HP. > Xpander, Nspire are different concepts. Better, but not necesary better for > all applications. They are significantly better for their intended target. Off course they can't be better for the traditionnal HP calculators market for sure. > If HP was more interested in education market i would expect they would > market their product better/more. Yet,the default mode of the HP49G+/HP50G is algebraic,isn't it ? > It almost seams as if HP has first and foremost concern about the part of > the market which used to use and at some point > to some degree understood and got familiar with the concept and what stands > for "HP calculators" rpn, principles of operation, > language etc.... (which i like very much) > And i know for a fact that many other people do as well. > (why else do you think GX models are still VERY popular and priced high > where you can get one) It hasn't input HP to use algebraic as default mode,modify the keyboard layout and move the enter key and last but not least produce a HP49G+ whom quality is an insult to any other HP calculator eleased before (included the HP49G despites ACO lack of experience). Granted the HP50G has fixed some problems of the HP49G+,yet it still has algebraic as default mode. > Once all those people realize that 50G is all that what they are used to AND > more > (just in a little up-to-date package) they will do the switch. > BUT to switch to something completely different -i wouldn't expect that so > easily. I personnaly think that the HP50G is a far cry from what a company who was able to release the HP48SX in 1989/1990 should be able to produce nowadays where even mobile phones have up to 500/600 Mhz CPU,high resolution color(up to 24 bits) screen with ,built-in harddrive,built-in GPU,etc...
From: Han on 1 Nov 2006 15:15 In terms of what though? Marketshare? Nah, TI already has killed HP in that department. Otherwise, I do not see how the CAS can "kill" the HP 50G. From what I can tell, the HP 50G is more of an engineer's tool. And engineers seldom need a computer algebra system as most of the calculations do not involve nice, made-for-math-textbooks equations. As a data collector, the CAS is wasted. As a number cruncher, the CAS is also wasted. And as a CAS machine, well TI calculators in general have already overtaken the classroom, so the TI-nspire does nothing to change the current situation. Veli-Pekka Nousiainen wrote: > http://education.ti.com/educationportal/sites/US/nonProductMulti/nspire_cas.html?bid=4
From: Veli-Pekka Nousiainen on 1 Nov 2006 17:19 Yao Konan wrote: X > I personnaly think that the HP50G is a far cry from what a company who > was able to release the HP48SX in 1989/1990 should be able to produce > nowadays where even mobile phones have up to 500/600 Mhz CPU,high > resolution color(up to 24 bits) screen with ,built-in > harddrive,built-in GPU,etc... and a battery life of about 4 hours?
From: Joel Kolstad on 1 Nov 2006 17:26
"Jean-Yves Avenard" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message news:4qqcqpFo2ojiU1(a)individual.net... > And why do you think teachers recommend TI calculators ... > because they do the job fine and are very well suited for the curriculum. I'm sure you'd agree that very few math class curriculums require even 1/10th the functionality of almost any contemporary graphing calculator! I knew plenty of fellow students in college (during the HP 48GX days) who never wrote (or downloaded) a single program, didn't know about the great units handling, etc. |